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Transportfuehrer... unknown what branch but possibly something wehrmacht or reichsbahn related....

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Any thoughts as to the different base colors of the SU soviet worker armbands?

Anything new Kyle? smile

--dj--Joe

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Originally Posted By: derjager
Any thoughts as to the different base colors of the SU soviet worker armbands?

Anything new Kyle? smile

--dj--Joe


No clue on the difference Joe. My guess is possibly just the extra cloth they had around or something as even the ones that are the same color, the materials are different or cheaper in quality. I actually do have this one which I have been still continuing to research more. I have gotten a reply finally from the NOID (Netherlands version of the US National Archives) and here is what they told me:

Born in Bremen on August 16, 1900. Was first commercially employed. In August 1932 he became a member of the Nazi Party, the Party in which he reached the rank of Oberbereichsleiter (circa early 1941). In the SS, he held the rank of Obersturmbannführer, according to him, this was only an honorary rank. In the NSDAP he first played a role in the National Socialist Betriebszellen Organisation (the forerunner of the German Labor Front), in 1937 he was appointed Amtsleiter the Party Chancellery in Munich. From May 1940 to September 1944 he was employed by the State Commissioner as Leiter der Hauptabteilung Organisation of Generalkommissariat besonderen zur Verwendung, also Deputy General Commissioner. He mainly had to do with labor input, the Dutch Labour Front, social legislation, Winter Aid Netherlands and Dutch People Service. During the last winter of the war, he worked as an OT Führer in reinforcements to Elten.

As far as he participation in the Dutch NSB DAF and RAD (NAF and NAD) he is some type of leader as his name has constantly popped up with leader next to his name and lots of documents on him in their archive. Before 1941's rank of Oberbereichsleiter he was a Hauptstellenleiter and I assume the Reich part is talking about the political level Reich? With the armband itself only 2 are known to me with the paper (both 2 which includes mine were from the same source) and 3 others are around without the paper. Any translation on the bottom words as google translate isn't clear. The paper states how he to not let anybody else use it and return it by thr 13th of September 1939. But Reichsparteitag 1939 never happened so he never wore the armband and all 5 would have been in storage somewhere where ever the veterans who brought back the 2 groups of them found them.










Photo of him. The caption says the middle man, but which one as there is 2 close to the middle... another armband is in the mail here but I won't post it until it arrives with my photos smile

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That's a most interesting piece Kyle.
Printed on cotton or silk with what, Silk borders?

Thanks for sharing.

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The armband itself seems to be possibly silk?? Not rough in texture and the stripes are satin, very odd materials but very fancy! Materials make sense for the short term use

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Thanks Kyle,

A great piece for a dedicated collection like yours. Congrats.

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Kyles:

This is a great thread, thanks for sharing.

Here are my Norwegian Nasjonal Samling armbands (the NS was Norway's equivalent to the Nazi party in Germany).

The black one is for the adult members of the Hird, or party.

The green ones were for teh youth members.

John

Obverse.JPG (40.02 KB, 112 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (41.68 KB, 112 downloads)
MVC-225S.JPG (40.24 KB, 112 downloads)
MVC-226S.JPG (40 KB, 112 downloads)
Obverse.JPG (38.57 KB, 114 downloads)
Reverse.JPG (40.34 KB, 112 downloads)
The Two (2).JPG (38.79 KB, 112 downloads)

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These are very interesting! Is there a meaning of the 2 youth armbands having different insignia? One has swords and the other doesn't. Is the sword one some kind of leader or rank?

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I am sure taht someone out there will correct me if I am wrong, but the one without swords is for the youth group (NSUF Nasjoanl Samling Ungdoms Fylking) and the one with swords is for the little girls (Smahird) and male youths (Unghird).

I have shoulder patches for these groups as well.

The last one is for the Unghirdmarine, or sea youths (I guess we would call them Sea Scouts today).

John

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So similar to the DJ and HJ in Germany? Either way very nice and I would assume rare pieces!

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Kyles:

There were many similarities between the German and the Norwegian NS organizations.

There were equivalents to the RAD, the SS, the SA, the HJ, the women's organizations, the DLV, and on and on.

John


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I mean as far as the armbands go, you said one is for younger kids like the DJ in Germany and the other is like Hitler Youth age

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Kyles:

Sorry, I wasn't clear. Yes, you are correct. The Norwegians had organizations similar to DJ (Guttehird) and HJ (Unghird) and the same for female groups: small girls (Smahird), youth women (Gjentehird) and adult women (Kvinnehird).

John


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Oh ok, thanks! I like learning about all the other similar parties in Europe. There is so many!

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New white Reichsbahn armband....






Looks to be a very faint stamp in the correct top right....




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I like that one because I like trains. Thanks for showing it.

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Yep. I had an urge for a Reichsbahn armband and this one popped up so it got ride of that one for a while haha. Lots of different Reichsbahn armbands around

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Hi Kyle, I'm thinking about buying a yellow armband (Deutsche Wehrmacht) with the stamp still on it. Is $87 (shipping included) a fair price or can you find them cheaper. The letters are not stamped but machine woven. Danke!

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Deutsche Wehrmacht for $87..???????????? Way overpriced. These are the most common of all TR armbands, and can be bought .even on nasty Ebay for like $25.00 .

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Thx Marksmilitaria!


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Sorry for the later reply. The top price I would pay for one is $40, nothing more. There is thousands of these on the market just at this moment, and probably the most common armband as Mark says.

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THX Kyle!


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I have had one for sale for $20.00 for it seems forver, no luck.lol

I do not even bother buying any of these unless itis for $10.00 or so, lol,like 48 star USA flags, everyone has one or two, or a hundred!!

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Man for $20 you should have been able to sell it quick!

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It seems to be very difficult to find one at a low price! The cheapest one I could find is priced at $36 but the seller is not replying my emails... checked evil bay as well but there's just a bunch of fakes for sale and one original for 65 GBP (I think that's about $120?)


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ONS Racing armband.... for a 3 day mountain race in 1936. Racer 148 as a translation for people who don't know German....



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Kyle, anything new?

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I would say yes, since the last post was a year ago haha.

Brown Feuerwehr armband. Not sure of the exact use. Can't find a lot of info. I suspect some type of leader or for training?


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Feuerwehr from the town of Itzehoe, nice readable stamp.



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3 more Feuerwehr. These 3 were found together along with probably 15 others in Germany (the brown one earlier as well was part of this group) all from the same town. too bad the stamp isn't readable.




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2 different Landwacht. One's stamp is very clear and can be seen that it is from the town of Jever.






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A plain blue Luftschutz. The exact use is unknown as of now.


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2 Luftschutz medics. One is a leader due to the white stripes. A different variation of it is seen earlier in this thread as well. I now have 2



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Luftschutz messenger...


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Not 100% sure on the exact use of this one, but have been told it was for Ortsgruppe Polizei? Has an odd little number stamped on the back as well.



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Deutsche Reichsbahn and Im Dienst der Deutschen Reichsbahn




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Stadtwacht


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2 different HilfsKrankentraeger variations.



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Plain white armband. Used for many different things, like war games umpires, Luftschutz, Reichsbahn, etc.


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