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hey guys i recently acquired a Malsch & Ambrom SA dagger from an old customer of mine. It is in decent condition but it has one tiny cut in the blade. I am wondering how much this would affect the value of the dagger. Any thoughts or input is much appreciated!

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Hi, a very desireable maker, many love that trademark. The dagger overall looks very nice and it would appear that the blade should clean up nicely with some simichrome. The value will be affected a bit by the nick but for me it is preferable to water damage or a sharpened blade. I still think that your dagger is worth between $700 and $800, the effect of the "nick" is minor in my opinion. Without it add another $50 to $100...cheers, Ryan

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Hey Ryan thanks for the great information. I think i may keep it just cuz its a pretty darn cool piece of history to have around and look at. I am going to try obtaining some simichrome to clean it up.
A bit of backstory. I obtained the dagger through a Jewish man, a longtime customer of mine who has unfortunately succumbed to alzheimers/dementia as of late. I was always very nice to him and treated him like i would my own grandfather; whatever the case may be he left the dagger with me for free! Funny thing is i decided to return it to him the next day because i had no interest at the time in such things and knew it had been with him since the war ( the dagger has seen some things!) but with his alzheimer/dementia he couldn't even remember having given me the dagger. I tell him that its his and that he should keep it but he refused to acknowledge the dagger was ever his.(Alzheimer/dementia is a terrible and sad disease my friends) I do see him around lately and his condition has not gotten better at all, its a shame that i couldnt ask more about the history of it but when he gave me the dagger his mind had already been heavily affected by the disease.

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Daggers are often re-tipped, but not much that can be done for a blade chip like this.
As stated, this minor defect wouldn't add or take away from the daggers value much either way, just a case of "it is what it is". I'm not very familiar with any acceptable "over the counter" cleaning methods, obviously you want to do as less cleaning as possible. To get grit and light corrosion off collectable metal, I often rub/soak with olive oil & soft cotton cloth, which is extremely chemically neutral and safe.
Might want to store it out of the scabbard at least for a while, it is possible the scabbard contains a contamination which is reacting with the blade over time. Just letting it air out for a couple weeks might do it some good.

I'm thinking in the $550-$700 range in todays market,


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Yea the marks almost look like rust or dried up blood!!!! Ill try the olive oil and cotton cuz I have both of them available to me right now and ill update with pictures showing the before and afters. After browsing the forums I am more interested in these weapons and think I may try and get one of the more ornate lookin daggers. A question for all you collectors, does the value increase at all over time or has it reached a plateau? Also, how good of an investment are weapons like this? I've read that millions of these were made at one point which makes me believe it's not super rare or anything.

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Don't collect TR as an investment would be my advice.
All collectible markets have taken a hit with the years long sluggish economy, and things appear they will get worse before they get any better. Very rare, unique & mint condition items seem to be the only ones that hold and increase their value, all others are subject to pricing fluctuations, mostly in the negative.


Doug

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