#22660
06/21/2010 01:56 PM
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Makes sense. Will aim to take the auction down.
Need to investigate further.
Michal
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#22661
06/22/2010 01:54 PM
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Im certainly no Rohm expert but a few observations generally about the dagger.
1. Seems in your for sale add it has a plated eagle in the grip?. Should this not have been Nickel Silver for an early Rohm One?.
2. The terrible abrasive scratching to the blade is often done to these to make them look like the dedication and front of the dagger do in fact match.
3. The blade looks like it has been sharpened down the edges. This can be as a result of the blade being polished down heavily to put the new dedication on (If it was from an erased Rohm to start with).
4. Look length ways along the blade quite often the fake ones are no longer straight on the reverse. They look rippled against the light and the central ridge goes wavey.
5. If you look at the abrasive scratching by the makers mark it looks like it goes under the actual scratching that supposidly removed the name? not the other way around. This would mean that the blade was scratched up before the dedication was removed???.
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#22662
06/22/2010 10:14 PM
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All valid points Mongo. Not sure if I get the last one though.
I have like 4-5 eps rohms altogether so will try to make a comparative "family" photos.
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#22663
06/23/2010 10:14 PM
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Here is another one of mine. No facial as well. I always felt this is genuine.
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#22664
06/23/2010 10:14 PM
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#22665
06/23/2010 10:17 PM
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#22666
06/23/2010 10:17 PM
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And logo again.
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#22667
06/23/2010 10:19 PM
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I guess the logo after derohming is a tricky topic. Any thoughts on this one with a face off EPS MM?
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#22668
06/24/2010 03:43 AM
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Overlord...your files are Overkill. Messing with my computer. Just wanted to respond in case no one else does. Oh the second dagger... I like that one better. OK? But please No-More.
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#22669
06/24/2010 08:10 PM
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sorry guys. Shocked they are so large. they are standard on my pc.
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#22670
06/25/2010 12:06 AM
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Can`t ask for better detail than that!!
Historical Stewardship is a Trusted Honor that must be kept!
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I think we should ask Galian David and Houston Coates for their opinions.
Regards, Andrew
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Guys, no need to get overexcited about those little eyes and noses. Sometimes the etchings are very crude. See this one (100% original, just overpolished). I'd also like to notice that in case of ex-Röhm blades the face might be simply gone during the dedication removing process.
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Hmmm... I would not buy it. This kind of explenation allows every FAKE rohm to pretend to be OK simply because it is a consequence dedication removing proces.
Oh - and the whole discussion about the closed or opened hammer becomes obsolete with this finding. In this MM the "ALIEN" is hiting with the stick instead of the hummer!!
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I have not made a great study of Pack Rohm daggers so I am not commenting on this dagger. However, I can say that you can see at least 13 or 14 different variations of their TM. Some may be do to a worn template but still, there is great diversity in their original daggers. Best Wishes, Bob
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So is there a correct dimension for the trademark to crossguard distance ? I know E Pack did not shift the TM on their Rohm daggers as some did.
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