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Hello genetelmen! I need your opinion about this knife, please. Thank you in advance. Dimitri [img:center]  [/img] [img:center]  [/img]     [img:center]  [/img]
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Ups! Seems we posted same request with ALIEN (we participate in the same Ukrainian militaria forum)... Sorry...
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The knife is an original early one by Anton Wingen Jr.
The diamond is a replacement: it should have the small version insignum but here a large one (which does not fit in the cutout) has been mounted onto the grip plate. It appears to be a diamond from a HJ badge pin.
Best regards,
Herman
Last edited by Herman V. (aka Herr Mann); 07/25/2012 08:01 PM.
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Herman, you can show one with such a stigma?
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Herman, you can show one with such a stigma? Alien meant "with such type of maker mark" I guess... Because most fighting was about this point. No one of us saw such kind of mark by AW before...
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Here is another one with this very early, large "A.W.Jr" mark.
The same mark (without the "ges. gesch.") was also used on the very early eaglehead Hj' by this maker -> see pic 2
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Hi Herman
That's interesting Wingen in second picture,can you show us complete knife?
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Hello Vitaliy,
Well noticed that there are some variations in the makers mark!
But this knife is not a copy but a nice original (except for the replacement diamond) and very typical Anton Wingen Jr made in all aspects: grip plate checkering, typical rivets, ...etc.
And here is the same mark on an early eaglehead HJ knife to assure you:
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Herman
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Hello Ivan, The most left one is the Wingen knife in question, next to it is another eaglehead -but mottoed- by Wingen, the others.. I don't have to explain to you.  Best regards, Herman A1.JPG (113.74 KB, 126 downloads) A2.JPG (116.14 KB, 126 downloads) A3.JPG (109.22 KB, 125 downloads)
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That's very interesting knife Herman,i have never seen one like that.
You think the diamond is mounted same way like a regular HJ ?
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Hello Ivan,
Yes, the diamond fits in the cutout and does wiggles. Grip plates are made of wood, and the diamond is not centered as you can see.
Another -even earlier- version of this Wingen HJ-eaglehead has the diamond integrated in the grip rivet near the guard, it has the same blade without the motto. I still look for one like that...
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Herman
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