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Originally Posted By: Mikee
DURCH! THROUGH! Mitteilungen, Messages or maybe notifications. But I like Messages. The artist is probably Adolf Hering, same artist and graphics guy that painted "Der Tod und das Mädchen". One of my favorites from your post cards. "I like spacey's explanation". As he explained, notice the winged helmet,reminds me of Mercury or the artists Germanic interpretation of this type of pagan god and it looks like a canister on his back? But instead of holding a caduceus, he's holding a sword to protect that message or possibly to deliver a strong one? And riding his horse through the water as if breaking through the lines. Great stuff. Thanks spacey.


Durch here, means passed, succeeded, success .. If Mitteilungen is printed, then, the drawing is a messenger, that delivered his\her message with succes. Mercury, the helmet shows this, was messenger for gods, so, yes, Mikee, very right.


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Here is one that is maybe nice for this topic too, and for everyone that likes or reads or follows this group, or topic too.

A card that links to Kreigsanleihe, I put up a card of that before, 3 pages back or so. I like this card, because, it has this dark goth look, and, it has the beautiful Sütterlin writing on it. I once already said something about Sütterlin here .. (hope the link works, its in the KdF topic anyway);




There aint no pretty art so I had to make it up a bit. On the left, an ad for Kreigsanleihe, it says;

Die neue Kriegsanleihe muß erfolgreich sein - sonst ermutigen wir England weiter zu kämpfen! - Sie kann erfolgreich sein - denn es ist Geld genug im Lande! Und sie wird erfolgreich sein - wenn jeder handelt, als ob von ihm allein alles abhinge!

So, in english, the new war bonds must be succesful, otherwise we encourage England to keep up the battle. They can be succesful, because there is enuff money in the country! And they will be succesful, if everyone does as if everything depends on him\her.

In other words, if y'all stop being egoistic, and give all your money, because its he only right thing to do, then we will win.

The photo of the officers of a Braunschweig regiment (yes, the 1 at bottomright has a nice skull on the cap!) are just there to make a nice view, handwritten on the back is 1916, no place, unfortunatly. Im sure the EK is here somewhere, but, I m not sure. The little beautiful flower was a nice haphazard, people see it as weed here, but, I like it. The card then, in closeup;



Its pretty no? Can you make out the writing? Ill help you;
Gebt! Helft uns! Unsere Flieger wagen für Dich ihr Leben.
Or, in english;
Give! Help us! Our fighterpilots risk there lives for you.

Another strong message, to push people to give money, and valuables, to support the war. Nothing on the back of the card.

Enjoy!

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I like the imagery of both of these last two cards. Strong, simple and to the point. A messenger on one and a message on the other.
Any thoughts on your cards artist K ? HRS.
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Dean,

A well deserved award, no doubt about it. wink

Great to see that you and Karin have been adding to our thread and keeping things fresh and alive, Mikee, DJ and spacey too.

"Durch!" is a honey of an illustration, simple, direct and right to the point, "break through!" You really get the feeling of urgency and determination from the art, the rider and his animal will stop for nothing to complete their urgent mission. Many of these uncomplicated drawings and paintings are most effective in conveying their messages to us, the less we have to interpret the better and more clear the vision.

Karin's Kriegsanleihe card depicts old-style typography at its best, when different type sizes and font styles called our attention to the most important parts of the message, with a minimum or no illustration whatsoever. The same holds true for the flyer's card, a plain, nationalistic border frames the hand-written plea for financial assistance, lending a much more effective, personalized touch.

Many thanks to all who've shared their time and thoughts so that together we can explore and enjoy this wide-ranging topic. Each piece of art helps to clarify and build the mosaic of subjects that were so important to a nation before, during and after the rule of kings.

Best!

Bill

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Thank you for input on the Durch card. All great interpretations.
With all the different meanings for this word I wonder if the artist wanted there to be a one and only meaning for his creation.
I did find a preposition of durch through Google that supposedly means 'by force of' and thought it could relate to the concept of the art.

Very nice looking cards Krullies. I'm a sucker for that neat looking Sütterlin script too. What a art form. Sorry to see it becoming a thing of the past.

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Originally Posted By: derjager
...Any thoughts on your cards artist K ? HRS..

Heey Joe!!! No Im sorry, havent even thought of it, but, the crosses are not very even, if you look careful, one arm is shorter, so, maybe its a cut up pasted from bits and pieces and then printed thing? The handwriting is very nice, but, everything together, not like the art that Dean puts up here. Ill look if I find anything, but I doubt that I can ...


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How goes the skull collecting?

Actualy, I think, slow, not much added, I lost interest in everything actualy, been a while, so much going on, its a nice change of thoughts now, maybe something comes back, I dont know where we were? Well figure it out!!!


Originally Posted By: Dean Perdue
..I'm a sucker for that neat looking Sütterlin script too. What a art form. ..

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...Karin's Kriegsanleihe card depicts old-style typography at its best, when different type sizes and font styles called our attention to the most important parts of the message.

Yes!!! I agree Dean and William .. I tried to write Sütterlin, but its not eazy!!! The e looks like my n, the D like my F and so on, but yes its so pretty!!! But you have to practice to read or write it properly. I have a 3rd Reich Hitler Jugend practice school book of a girl, from the early HJ or JM or BDMyears, so from before Sütterlin was banned, it helped to learn to read the script better.


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With all the different meanings for this word I wonder if the artist wanted there to be a one and only meaning for his creation....

Yes very right, the meaning obviously is double meaning, like DID IT or maybe more MADE IT on 1 hand, and the (broke) throuhg on the other hand, but, mostly durch used by itself, is meaning something like YEAH MADE IT, like exams, or the next level, or a test. The helmet in the drawing telltales its Mercury, so, yes, this is word-playing here.


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...have been adding to our thread and keeping things fresh and alive, Mikee, DJ and spacey too.

Our pleasure Im sure William I gotta stop using these *lol* love em and how they offend certain people is a bonus, but itsa real drag to get them in, but, I got this truly awesome card I want to show you Dean and everyone, but, please be patient, it surely will fit the group, its amazing, and it tells about a true tragedy. I promise I put it up here.

Dean your new card is brilliant btw, is it from a painting?!! It looks like socialist or communist type of art? Its really nice!!!!

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'Never forgetful of the shameful peace of Versailles' according to Google translation. I like how the artist placed Germania's sword tip in the snake.

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According to Wikpedia this austrian artist had his works featured in Jugend, Simplicissimus und Fliegende Blätter.

Looks like the dude in the backround is a little more thrilled with the performance than his wife.

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'Erinnerungsblatt an die eroffnung Leipzig - 6 Mai 1914' is printed on the back of this postcard.
I think its neat how the picture is made up with thousands of fine lines when viewed under magnification.A close look reveals a viking(?) and a eagle's(?) head.
Any thoughts on meaning welcome.

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Dean,

I think the word Schmachtfrieden is better translated to mean, "a yearning for peace." Most likely used to describe the political chaos and turmoil that resulted throughout Germany after the cessation of hostilities - imposed democracy, the fight against Communism, occupation of the Ruhr, war reparations, etc. Germania seems to be deep in thought, pondering the question when will there be a true peace? Never forget what they did to us ...

The second card may possibly be an illustration of Salome, Richard Strauss' controversial opera?

The third might be associated with this event - 1914 was the 150th anniversary of the Königliche Akademie für Graphische Künste und Buchgewerbe (Royal Academy for the Graphic Arts and Book Industry) in Leipzig, and to celebrate that occasion, as well as to advertise Leipzig's stature as the pre-eminent book publishing city of Germany, the locals put on an international exhibition of books, book-making, and related arts - the Bugra.

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Thanks for setting me straight on the translation Bill.

Heres one with a few signatures on back. Gotta love Karl's stylized letter on his last name.

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Dean,

Not only is the stylized "B" a gem, the theme and illustration are also superb. One of the best renderings of Wotan I've seen in a long time, the look in old boy's 'good eye' is frightening ... he looks right through you ... directly into your mind and soul - clever old sod that he was!

Verlag des Vereines Südmark, Graz, published many excellent nationalistic propaganda cards. This one titled, Sonnenwende, or Solstice, no doubt would have been a big hit with followers of Himmler's Ahnenerbe program.

By all means a lovely postcard. One has to appreciate the shield-shaped viewing aperture the artist gives us to frame the old Germanic god. Fantastic composition, drawing and painting, too, the choice of colors is magnificent, at least to my eye. This has to be one of my favorites of this entire thread, it really reminds me of Howard Pyle and N.C. Wyeth's incredible work.

Relating this to our varied taste's in collecting, can you imagine this small graphic in the proper beautiful frame in your Rustkammer..? It would be a knockout in my humble opinion, the perfect pinnacle for a fine, SS collection.

Wish I could translate it for you but I'm miserable at best when it comes to Sutterlin script, perhaps someone else can make out the signatures and line of type? Can you send me a more full-on shot of the back, I'll play around with it in Photoshop and post it back here. Hopefully someone will be able to lend a helping hand? It'd be interesting to check out if we can.

Nice, thanks!

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Originally Posted By: Dean Perdue
...Heres one with a few signatures on back. Gotta love Karl's stylized letter on his last name.


Originally Posted By: WWII
..Not only is the stylized "B" a gem, the theme and illustration are also superb...
Relating this to our varied taste's in collecting, can you imagine this small graphic in the proper beautiful frame in your Rustkammer..? It would be a knockout in my humble opinion, the perfect pinnacle for a fine, SS collection..Wish I could translate it for you but I'm miserable at best when it comes to Sutterlin script...


Anyone say Sütterlin??!! Dean what a beautiful card, William, what a beautiful explanation!!! Saving it to my notes thank you very much!!!

Nice type for the word Sonnenwende, yes, I so like the black bird wih the pretty flowers in its beak very much!!! Is it a raven? Also important, in mythology, and in folklore. So maybe also in the SS way of thinking, that Williams brings forward.

I ll help and try the Sütterlin, if nobody beats me to it, ofcourse .. Not sure if it actually is Sütterlin? The type used on the back (Verlag des Vereins blahblah) of the card is Fraktur~like, will need to check when Anton Marussig made the work, and, if the solstice was big topic in Germany before 1930s. Will have to be later, I hope today if I have some time left. Thanks for the card, and the story guys!!!! Truly brilliant!!!!

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Dean, William, Anton Marussig lived in Graz, second largest city in Austria, from 1868 to 1925 when he died. He made some nice paintings!!! About the signatures, the biggest, with the pretty B, is most easy to read. That 1stname looks like Karl, but that surely is not a Sütterlin K, and, if you take it further, and say it MUST be Sütterlin, it could just as clear read Rolf. The lastname seams to start with a B, because it looks like our B, but it could be another letter late in the alphabet. Followed by a c or a e, and if there is a dot above the next pointy-up, its an i, then an m and a d, but the scan is not real clear, is there a little denty shape above the last pointy-upwards? Then there is a u. The scan, can you make it bigger and with more sharpness or contrast please Dean? The name on the left, probably starts with F, but, it depends, how does the writer write? It could as easily be E or J, the 1stname ends with d, so we can look for names that fit, there is a shape above it, a dot or a line, so there you find i or u, not j, we see no curl downwards. Then, the lastname, starts with N, ends with Z, or Y, we need more of the writers writing to know. It takes time, to learn specifics.


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I like to add this amazing card. The card at the back says Peter Cornelius is the artist. He lived from 1783 to 1867, born in Düßeldorf, died in Berlin. He worked mostly in Berlin, but also in München and even Rome, to study classics, and you can see influences.

The work is a part of the painting Die apokalyptischen Reiter, and Wikipedia tells that this work is by Peter von Cornelius. Here you can see the whole painting, and this also says Von Cornelius. Still, maybe the card is right.

The horsemen, there are 4, we see 3. The back gives us the names of the riders; Krieg, Tod und Teuerung. So, War, Death and Teuerung litterally means inflation, raise in price, but it cant be litteral here, I think it must be white horse, if you look at the scales, the justice scales, judging, judgement, righteousness. Then, the red horse, war .. The swordslinger, ofcourse!!! Next, death.

Still, if we read the bible on this, the book of revelations 6, verses 7 onwards;
When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, "Come and see!" I looked and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth., so we can also see the swordslinger as death.

But in this case, Im sure, that rider is War. And next to him, Death. If the card at the back gives the right names. The last horseman, don t have an object, no scale no sword, just like the rider here. The green horse. Im sure it's Death. And you look at the big painting (link above) you see that Death holds the scythe, that we know clearly from Death.

You can see the card a tad bigger if you click it. Enjoy!!

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Extremly nice card Krullies.I was aware of this card but never knew that it was just part of the whole picture.Thanks for the great info.

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Bill,

Thanks for your insight into this one and I agree with you, the artist has captured so much. The first thing that captures ones attention is that stare which causes thoughts to race and questions to answer. What unrest is he thinking of stirring up next. There's a mystery in his eye, looking like the old wizard that he is and what have Hunginn and Muninn told him to cause such a reaction. Is this a branch from the tree of life they bring? Old one eye looks old and wise, yet powerful and cunning, his hands holding so tight to his spear Gungmir a source of power, that his knuckles have turned white. The artistic eye and talent for such work is what amazes me.


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Karin,

Another stunning image for our growing collection, wink

A Peter von Cornelius steel engraving of the highest quality, the tonal-range is really something - a single color - from the softest, most subtle gray to the richest of black. A perfect example of perspective, the darkest shades being closest to the viewer as the backgrounds fade away to a mere whisper ... The anatomy of the figures suggests the style of Michelangelo to me - certain, precise, knowing. Clever how PvC differentiates the allegories from their human victims - the vampire-like blank stares, the eyes having no content! Unlike their nightmare-induced riders, the horses eyes convey life and understanding while the horsemen are beyond a doubt, undead monsters. Fantastisch!

Mikee,

I agree, 'brilliant' is a good choice of words to describe the truly artistic mind. A great piece of music, literature, or image can transfer us to places as unique and diverse as our own personalities, the possibilities are literally endless ...

Many thanks for adding the names of Wotan's raven-spies and his spear. These sharp little details are what bring these old Germanic tales of gods, monsters and men to life. Oh, almost forgot, lots of beautiful and "named," magic-hammers and runic-marked edged weapons, all endowed with tremendous powers!

Dr. Dean,

Thanks for the additional scans, I diddled around a bit and will attach what I came up with - not all that much better than your original shots. That one line of type will be the key to the exact nature of your card ... maybe somebody will help and we'll see..? cool also, thanks in advance to any and all who have ideas as to what it might say?

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Now that I look at it, my nearest guess at a translation would be:

"Heartfelt greetings from the '__ __ __' - vacation."

and then various signatures of friends/loved-ones?

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I just came over this thread by chance. Normally I do not look into this section - I see now I have to regret because of the high quality art which is shown here and the very pleasuring discussion. For sure I will take a look once more from time to time.
Concerning the handwritten text in question (reverse of the wonderful solstice card):
The first line says „Herzl.(abbrev. for Herzlich or Herzliches) Heil von der Sonnwendfeier“ translated „Heartfelt Heil (=hail) from the solstice celebration“ (see especially the H from Herzl. is the same letter as the H from Heil).
The name with the most decorative „B“ is Bruno.

Concerning pg 49, input# 267483 with the Germania/Versailles card from Dean: The translation from Dean is absolutely correct (Schmachfrieden – shamefull peace, comming from the word „Schmach“). The word „Schmachtfrieden“ has erroneously the „t“ put in by WWII –which is not there- and therefore would have indeed a totally different meaning („schmachten“ = to yearn fore) but as said (and shown) there is no „t“ in the printed word and therefore –shamefull peace- is correct.
Hope I could help a little,
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Wotan,

Thanks for checking on me, my peepers definitely aren't what they used to be ... grin

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Interesting Wotan. Thanks for that info and those two translations.

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Windsbraut. I googled and it appears there some mythology tied to the word but I couldn't find much more explanation, other than some art and a song.

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For a translation I got whirlwind, Die Windsbraut - The Tempest.

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Nice card Dean,

This is a painting by Herman Hendrich called "Windsbraut" and is one of a series of five large paintings derived from Goethe's book, Faust,Walpurgisnacht(Walpurgis night). These paintings are located in the Walpurgishalle (Walpurgis Hall) museum which was built in 1901 in the old Germanic style. It's a cool building located in the Hexentanzplatz (Witches dance floor) valley in Thale Germany, considered an old Saxon Germanic place of worship, where during the night of 30 April to 1 May rituals were held. This is considered the place where the witches congregated before the ceremony, then take to there brooms and fly to the Blocksburg to marry the devil. For a follow up to this postcard, If you remember we briefly discussed this topic from another of Deans postcard in referenace to Walpurgis night on the Blocksburg, which is located on page 22 and explains it's tradition. Thank you.

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I like the eagle card Dean!!! Many enemies, much honor, the German eagle defends himself with pride .. nice detail the tiny crown, very nice!!!

The Windsbraut card is brilliant!!! Mikee very good info!! I like to build on that, towards windbrides ... I love this sort of thing!!! Windsbraut, bride of the wind, but yes, mythological very interesting. This statue tells a bit about it;



Die Windsbraut gilt als mystische Gestalt für Wirbelsturme. So; The bride of the wind is seen as mystical creature that creates whirlwinds. So, female spirits of nature that cause whirlwinds. In folklore, the bride of the wind apears when hunting season comes. This bride of the wind was a rich noble woman, that had a passion for hunting, but she hunted so much that she wrecked the balance of nature, and she was cursed to forever walk the fields as a whirlwind. This woman pop up in different European cultural myths, as Holda, Polednica, Diana, Aello or Melusine. but the last name was later used for a water-linked spirit. Even the Lutherian bible, in the book of apostels (acts), a Windbride from northeast wrecks the ship of Paulus on the greek island Gavdos.


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Awesome info.
I'll never see a devastating storm again without this in the back of my mind. Thank you for helping keep this legend alive.

Posting more trippy art by Ludwig Fahrenkrog from a Munich card with Hamburg cancellation dated 1919.

From what I found out he started some religous groups based on old germanic gods and mythology.

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Try to do some active contribution to this thread.
From an old book (it is not dated but due to advertisments I strongly assume it was printed before 1918) which concerns to german mythology and also the Nibelungen Saga.
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Now from the Nibelungen Saga
Siegfried at the spring.

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End of the Nibelungen.

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All illustrations are done by Max Koch.

There are also nice ornamental chapter separations.

All for now, regards,

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Amazing stuff Wotan.
The Fenris Wulf illustration is bad to the bone.

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I think at least equal to the Nibelungen illustrations. In "End of Nibelungen" the next moment Hagen has lost his head too and it is roling over the floor.... As revenge for his deed at the spring.
Regards,

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1909 card with great looking writing on back.
Maybe something to do with the Nibelungen too?

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