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Woman's brooches were fashion in the 30 and 40 ties. This brooch is a personal brass made brooch; made for a female NSB sympatisant ( Dutch National Socialistic Movement, collaboraters with the Nazis ). In the middle a runic sign... Text around is "LEVET SCONE" a Dutch medieval poem text, which were popular in wartime to show the "real" ("real", read NSB,Dutch nation sympatisants). "LEVET SCONE" means: Live the good life...Enjoy the good/ beautifull of life. On the back is used a period safty pin.I didn't clean it.
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I really like that!
I have something similar,,, I'll try and find it and post..
*Does this look like a mass produced piece? Or a one of a kind custom made piece?
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Indeed very nice items and for sure worth to collect!
I have seen within the years some very similar brooches. Most had the emblem of a period organisation. Nearly all were brass and had a needle system backside. Sometimes i had the impression that they were industrial made and some had manufacturers notations on the backside too.
On this brooch here i think the needle was replaced one time, but still a cool looking one.
Congrats and thanks for showing here!
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Gaspare, I looked again to the letters inside... they are handmade. I also see very tiny help lines.
Odal, I had the same idea....but, there is no sign to see that the pin has been replaced.
Thanks guys for your reply!
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G. if you find your brooch, I'd love to see it .
Here a brooch with Sig rune of the Jungvolk ? Brass blackened and ca 5cm in diameter.
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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found it! 1st thought it was a WHW item but they are usually marked so its probably not..
Only marking is on pin plate Ges Gesh.. A fairly common item..
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Odal thanks for your reply, always appreciated.
Gaspare, a nice brooch. This is the first brooch I see with this mark. I like these German runic forms, the lines go on in eternity. It is magic.
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Here's that same " Ges. Gesch. " mark on yet another Heemkunst brooch ..
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Interessting. Thanks for showing. With the "ges. gesch." on it, it seems to be german made.
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The brooch will be mechanical made. The rune shows hammer beats, also mechanical made I presume. Hammer beat effects were fashion in the 30ties (and forties??).
A very nice brooch.
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And thanks for showing your items .. ! I think it is just the pin-attachment that came from Germany - I have seen several different pins used for these brooches . There's indeed a thin line with commercial fashion brooches from the period , that depict some more " neutral " decorations . But these rune-types are all O.K. in my book ..
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Speaking of books , these Dutch brooches will be discussed in the upcoming book on NSB-insignia by Gaston Vrolings . I've read a few finished concepts & contributed some pics of items myself . It has been a long time in the making , but it will definitely be worthwhile .. !
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That show you are german brooche. Dutch brooche ca 4 cm in diameter.
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Welcome Jan!
Very, very interesting! Thanks much for showing to us!
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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maybe interesting for you.....a page of a 1921 catalogue
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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wow, very nice Odal! thank you!
I have a whole katalog of brooches if you are interested, but this page is new to me. It may be the exact same company.
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This is the sunwheel brooch I am looking for....should anyone have one, please contact me!
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don't own this but saw in the auctions a while ago and still have the photos.. nice piece..
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Yes, I'm also looking for those pieces Gaspare. Made by Christian Deininger, so marked C.D.
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Yes, I'm also looking for those pieces Gaspare. Made by Christian Deininger, so marked C.D. Very good knowledge!
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Lore, do you have any information on this sunwheel brooch ? I have exactly the same one in my collection.
Thanks Ado
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Ado, can you show some pics of yours? I have some info on it. It is a civilian brooch not a military one. Would you sell or trade?
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Here is mine...it is marked for 900 silver and has a maker mark "arrow" like Tyr rune. Do you have any knowledge who is the jeweler with the tyr rune maker mark?
Thanks Ado
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Hi Lore, it would be nice if you can post the image from the catalogue you have where it shows this particular brooch in advertisement
P.S. PM sent
Thank you Ado
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Nothing spectacular, not even silver (only silvered) but worn by a close relative as a young maiden during the period. Regards,
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wotan, gd.c-b#105
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Nothing spectacular, not even silver (only silvered) but worn by a close relative as a young maiden during the period. Regards, I personally think this is RATHER special, in my mind. Of course you would never consider selling it? Mark
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Mark4321, thank you for your kind words. Yes, for me it is something special. And you are also right that I will not consider selling due to the mentioned personal fact. But additionally I can show the reverse. Regards.
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I've had this for years and didn't find out what it was until last year, Dutch NSB brooch. Much cleaner than the picture shows and dark blue enamel.
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Great old topic!
Jerry A company in the 80s were making those [USM I think]. . Don't know if a firm actually made them during the period, then it would be a reproduction or, if not a fantasy.
- We have a couple members who collect Dutch maybe they'll pass by and confirm or not..
The RZM is : M5/82 Steinhauer & Luck, Ludenscheid who made just about everything.. Just don't thick a pin like that would have a RZM...
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Thanks for the input, you could be correct. I took a few pictures from a book in a serious collectors' library last year, I'll need to see who the author was and when it was printed. Attaching a few pics.
Thanks again Gaspare! Jerry
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Yes, the print date as I'm sure on the 80s thing... - So yours is enameled? - - 86 described as 'stamped' 'dark blue colored metal', Stamped from a die? then blued?...
This is a tough one.. You gotta find a Tinne collector and/or a Foreign Volunteer collector...
Its got a nice look,,,but the RZM kills it for me.. Lets see maybe someone will see this and know something... Nothing wrong with holding on to that for now.. These small and especially foreign pieces can be extremely tough to authenticate 100% sometimes.........
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Made a change here. ,, - topic Dutch and now German brooches..
Some pre war German pieces from my files...........
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heres another I found while cleaning my photos..[sorry no reverse]
Reminiscent of the 3rd reich era Wound WestWall spiral ring... Could be much earlier too as I've seen the design on 1920s and older pieces also
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The first prëwar badge left is known as the Black Sun (in the SS castle of the Wevelsburg) and also as a WHW item . Yes, I agree the last brooch with the spirals reminds of the "Westwall jewellery" , but it can be older .
The brooch Black Sun and the brooch Odalah are my favourite.
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My brooch, bought in Germany, is die stamped out , which you can see clearly. It is a simple made brooch .
On internet I found more or less the same brooch, also stamped out but! with a “SS”mark on the backside and a Otto Gahr box … imo not SS and not made by Otto Gahr.
Please let me know your opinion about this .
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Benten,,yours is a beauty!! Can you please check yours in comparison with the photos I m posting from the auction... Does your have these tiny faults [in red] ??
The reverse,,is yours cleaner on these details?
Obverse/front I made it bigger - ,,is yours better detail,,,There are missing 'dots' on the boat [red]......,,see anything else??
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Yes G. there are certainly molding signs, like in the waves.
Here some more pics of mine for comparison
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I have some of these pieces. I do like the runics
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Lore,,,,Fantastico!!! Those are some of the nicest I've seen. ,,, What a great collection... That runic bracelet especially !, just super!
Many bracelets were hallarked. Any of them have an interesting hallmark?
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Lore, That is a real treasure of bracelets, brooches and more......, TOP! Do you know more about the bracelet (last pic.below) with the Heraldic scenes ...Nordic?
Thanks for showing,.
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Lore, That is a real treasure of bracelets, brooches and more......, TOP! Do you know more about the bracelet (last pic.below) with the Heraldic scenes ...Nordic? Looks like the guy with the pointed helmet has a broken sword, and the other guy is repairing it. Depending on the correct order of the three images, which seem to repeat, he either broke the sword fighting the dragon, or he had it repaired before he fought the dragon. Whatever, they are both very cool bracelets.
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Stephen, thanks for your reply .
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Awesome collection! Thanks for sharing it.
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Nibelung story bracelet is Norwegian made by Elvik Co. (and probably marked 830s) and has nothing to do with TR period and was imo post WW2 made and can be easily found for sale.
On the other hand that runic bracelet is just amazing!
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Thanks for all the compliments. The warrior bracelet has the owners name scratched on the back and her mother was from Norway. I had posted the bracelet before here, see for more info https://forum.germandaggers.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=333081&Board=38
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Great info on the linked topic!! I can tell you that is not a piece you'd find in the US back then..
As mentioned similar made now or even that exact one copied.. but I wouldn't doubt that was a gift picked up while visiting the 'homeland' or sent to them as a present. - Could be prewar to 1950 tops... Fabulous piece , great piece of workmanship
Come on,,,spotlight another one!
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Thanks G, good observations. Another possibility is a family heirloom piece.
Here is another shot of the runic bracelet and an interesting mother's brooch style with s runes. The mark on reverse looks like a hausmark for a family
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