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Please post the photos of the darkest motto's from your SS & SA daggers. It's an interesting topic as I know that a few of the SA makers painted their etched letters, while 99% or more use a darkening agent that collectors call burnishing.
Here is a Kober SA that I would consider having a painted motto, done by this firm.
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Under slight magnification you can see the actual paint in the letters of the motto.
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Here is a Malsch. I've associated this firm with painted motto's as well. This one shows wear to the paint but enough still remaining that makes it much darker than the typical burnished blades.
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While the Boker etches were some of the darkest that are seen on SS daggers, it doesn't look like an actual paint was used when compared to the Kober and Malsch.
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Here is a Heller. You can actually see the wear to what I would consider to be painted motto's in their etches.
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A J.P. Sauer with a dark burnished motto.
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And a Klaas with a dark burnished motto.
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Burnished Hammesfahr blade.
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The firm of Melzer & Feller used a dark paint for theirs.
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Wear to the paint on this Heller trademark.
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This M36 SS blade is nearly mint. But as you can see, these early Chain daggers had not only a light etch to the motto's, but the actual etch itself was light an not as deep as we see many of the trademarked pieces.
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Interesting..JR does that Heller have as light an etch as the picture shows
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Here is the Heller painted motto Rick. Same dagger as on page one.
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You guys are like in the "dead zone" over here. Post some photos, get involved, start some discussion, drink some beer........get some life on this site.
Wagner & Lang, did a nice darker burnished motto as seen here.
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Here is my Ernst Bruckmann JR, This is the darkest one I've got. Rich   
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JR, Found another. Here's my Tiger Rich  
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2 stunning examples............ lets see some more!
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Rich,Both of those examples do look top notch and appear to be of the period maker painted variety. How do they look under a loop ?
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Very interesting topic, JR!
Here are 2 Kober SA's: one with the black and one with the greyer motto, I almost would believe extra black was an option at the Kober firm...
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And here another maker specialized in dark, even bold motto's...
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Yes, they are made by... Aesculap!
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Here's another one, however it's not too dark. I'll be getting back to you on the other two JR as soon as I dig them out. Rich   
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I' ve seen some of the early large logo Eickhorns with what I remember as a painted etch as well. Nice examples and thank you for posting them!
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This Haenel also has the black treatment to the etch, although I'm not sure that it was paint. Might be some substance other than paint.
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A most magnificent collection of darkened mottos ,, but has caught my eye the most in all these beauties posted is the font style,, and i like the Melzer & Feller font type the most. Almost a gothic vampire type font. I have seen some of these types on the smaller cottage makers and also on Gebr. Heller Marienthal. Nice post gents,, here is my Pfeilringwerk and Otto Simon darkened mottos. I like the font on the Otto Simon.
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From what we have now seen, there most definitely are a more than a few makers that used this special darkening material in their etches. Like Skyline mentioned, I'm not ready to call it paint but it sure is intriguing on how the material held up.
Thank you for the posts gents............. maybe we can get some additional ones.
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Hey JR I forgot to point out on my Otto Simon ( see attached photo ) that the area I circled in orange is painted and the rest of the motto looks to be burnished. A in hand inspection will show this difference.
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Haenels: the ex R�hm's motto is much darker than the regular SA!
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Great thread JR! I have a couple dark motto'ed SA's. First is my Wilh Kober,this one is as dark as I have seen and must fall in the "painted" catogory...
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Next is my Melzer & Feller, a bit of wear but a dark one all the same....
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Wow,
What an array of beautiful blades...all of them!!!
I know this is a thread on motto's, but what a bunch of lookers, very nice!!!
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great topic for discussion ! never thought about painted mottos much , till now.
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Heers ,, beautiful grip on the Kober!!
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Any SS daggers out there with the painted type motto, that you feel was factory done ?
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Painted I don't think so..., but very dark is the motto of this Eickhorn SS for sure.
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And also is the inscription...
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one more pic...
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This SA appears to have extra black (paint?)..
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It's a Sauer
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