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I recently received two new maker marks into my Eickhorn collection of HJ knives.
I want to share them with you, along with their other Eickhorn family of knives.
I will lead off with my transitionals, those knives dated 1938 and up. None of my transitionals are mottoed.
First up is a 1938.
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Nest is my 1939 dated HJ.
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This is a 1940 dated version.
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Here is the first version I have of the 1941 dated transitional.
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The second version I have has the 1941 date, but no RZM code and no squirrel.
This is probably a mis strike at the Eick plant.
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I also have two versions of the 1942 marked knife.
This first one has the over shoulder squirrel (with the word 'Original') and the RZM code with the date, 1942.
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And, this one, which just arrived today, has only the RZM code and the year... no squirrel no other writing.
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This one has a faint motto and the 35-41 seated squirrel motto.
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We now get into my oval TM Eickhorns.
I will show you one then take a break for a while and leave the double ovals for a later time.
This is a poor shape knife for sure. But, it also has the very early single oval serrated tail TM, probably one of the earliest of productions for TR era.
John
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We now get into my oval TM Eickhorns.
I will show you one then take a break for a while and leave the double ovals for a later time.
This is a poor shape knife for sure. But, it also has the very early single oval serrated tail TM, probably one of the earliest of productions for TR era.
John
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John, this is a very nice collection, but the first one is incredibly mint. Congrats Stingray
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pretty incredible collection john from Navals to HJs,,You are the Eickhorn go to guy!! Now i know where to go for advice. Nice collection again!! best regards larry
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Thanks, guys, I appreciate your comments.
Now, we go into the Eickhorn double oval world.
When you look across the early blades that Eickhorn produced, you will see many many different versions of the double oval TM.
Does it have the C.E. under the squirrel or not?
Is it a smooth tail or a serrated tail? If serrated, does it have one, two or three serrations?
Is it a straight arm, bent arm or crossed arm squirrel?
Does the squirrel have short ears or long ears? Ears close together or spread apart?
Does the word 'Solingen' have a dot, an 'x', a five sided star or an asterisk '*' above the letters 'S' and 'N'?
Is it a large mark or a small mark?
Look across at your early HJs, KS98s of all strips, police bayos, SAs, NSKKs, Hunting and Forestries and you will wee many of these variations in the TM.
First up in the double ovals is what I think may very well be a smooth tail (hard to tell it's pretty faded.. and I ask that you tell me what you think). This has the bent arm squirrel with the ears close together and 'x' above 'Solingen'.
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This is a serrated tail with three serrations, bent arm, long eared squirrel with 'x' above 'Solingen'.
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And, this is the serrated tail with two serrations, straight arm, long eared with the '*' above 'Solingen'.
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This last one has the serrated tail with three serrations, straight arm, long ear and a six pointed star above the 'Solingen'. Note that this is a star not an asterisk.
That's it for the variations in my collection as of today's date. But, as new ones come in I will post them here.
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John,
Your threads like this are always an education in themselves as well as being very enjoyable to look at.
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That is a super collection of Eickhorn HJ's, John!
Very impressive!
And congratulations with finding all these variants!
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Thanks, again, guys.
Herman, you of all people know how many more variants there are out there, don't you?
Right now, I am waiting to pick up one from Paul Hogle next week and am in the bidding process on another. When you look at all of the potential combinations of the double oval variations, it boggles the mind.
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Yes, some of the differences of double ovals are more obvious side by side.
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Nice photography as always John. That's a couple of very nicely conditioned double ovals, now I've got to look to see which one my example is.
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I beleive Eickhorn knew what they were doing with all these variations, because with them being a mass producer, IMO I think this was away for them to keep track of production pieces at various times. Its always one small variation and then a big production run. and again another variation and another big run. These are just thoughts and not facts but would make sense in large production runs. Larry
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John, this is a great educational thread on Eickhorn trade marks, your knifes are real nice condition too Best Mac 66
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Vintage:
The one on the right is one that I have, but I haven't seen a laughing squirrel mark before...
Anytime that you wish to find a new home for the laughing boy there, give me a shout.
Beauties and in fantastic shape, too.
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Thanks, John,
We appreciate your collection and your willingness to show it to us. The condition of these knives is fantastic.
The HJ were really boy scouts and tended to use and sharpen their knives, so finding mint ones is very hard.
Dave
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Thanks, John,
We appreciate your collection and your willingness to show it to us. The condition of these knives is fantastic.
The HJ were really boy scouts and tended to use and sharpen their knives, so finding mint ones is very hard.
Dave
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Great analysing of the Eickhorn double oval stamp, John! Thanks a lot!
I have a couple additions to make:
- Some minor differences are in my opinion only due to the wear of the marking stamp: certain variations in "*" 's and "x"'s and squirrels with or without an eye.
See the added picture: one of the "*" became half a "x"
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Another variation is the presence or not of the "Ges. Geschutzt" marking.
See the variation without hereunder:
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Most of the marks are stamped but there is also an etched variation -it could have been the solluton to avoid the stamp wear-.
The etched variation was alredy showed, but here is another one:
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Eickhorn was also one of the few producers of an early version plated blade HJ knife.
With a double oval mark!
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Best greetings!
Herman
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Hermann:
I knew that I could cont on you to show some new and rare variations.
I still think that the 'x' and the '*' are two different marks used by Eickhorn, like the 5 and the 6 pointed stars.
I didn't realize that they produced a plated blade.. wow!
Thanks for adding to this thread, Hermann and Vintagetime.
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You are all great knives in superb conditions. With a wide variety of markings, congratulations for successfully bring them together What makes the collection of interest is found Eickhorn always marked it does not! Jul
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A question for you HJ afficiandos out there:
Is there a stamped and an etched version of the transitional Eickhorn TM?
John
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Here is my 16th Eickhorn HJ knife.
It is a transitional with both the 35-41 seated squirrel and the RZM 7/66 maker marks. It is dated 37.
And, it has the motto.
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WOW! Thats nice. Who wouldn't want this in their collection! Thanks for always sharing your fantastic collection.
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That Eickhorn 1937 version is very touch to find!
Congratulations, John, with another great addition to your most impressive Eickhorn collection!
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John Congrats, a very nice 37 dated Transitional Eickhorn into your great collection!!!
I just bought a very similar Transitional Eickhorn hj knife with no date on the ricasso with motto & small daimond insignia so i guess mine dates from 35-36?
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Yes,that's some collection John. Who would have thought,that so many variations one company had,unbelievable
Congrats Stingray
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I have a transitional Eick with no date and no motto.
And, the earliest transitional dated one is this 1937 date.
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