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Jerry

Here's a picture of pattern 1194.

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Thanks so much Gary,

Very cool to see an image of it from the maker's sales catalog. It has that same bugling elk in the blade etching.

So, Eickhorn would do special orders with upgrades or changes? Makes good business sense!

Thanks again of the picture Gary, really appreciate it.
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Back of blade etching on the same beat-up blade, just noticed it.

HAST UHTROFF KEL. HOFL. Might have been more but pretty faded.

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This is a distributor mark from the retailer who sold the dagger.

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I learned something new here, Gary. I never had a clue about distributor marked tangs. Thanks.

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Thanks Gary, I figured it was something like that. Sounds like there were more distributers than manufacturers? Just guessing that someone walked into Hast & Uhtroff and ordered a certain blade etching with other specifications (probably from a catalog), or would the distributor do any of the modifications?
Just wondering how the marketing went back then, interesting times!

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Just a quick question from a new collector of Forestry Daggers. On the Eickhorn Short Forestry Daggers is the hunter always etched on the blade near the guard or can he be etched towards the tip of the blade? Thanks in Advanced.

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Michael

I cannot recall ever seeing the hunter placed away from the guard near the tip, have you some pictures of a particular piece you are looking at.

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Gary:

I did find one on the cashicollection web site, but I don't know if it is appropriate to post the pictures here.

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Gary :

So here are 2 pictures of an Eickhorn Senior Forestry Short Dagger I just bought. Showing the hunter toward the tip of the blade. I did'nt pay much for it so it maybe fake. I will send better pictures when it arrives. Thanks for your time.

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https://www.cashicollection.com/page459.htm.

Gary:
Here is a link showing the hunter at the tip of the blade. Hope I am not breaking any rules by posting this link. Thanks

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Michael

If you look at the makers mark on that piece you'll notice that it is upside down, whilst I don't think its a deal breaker on its own if you combine that with the etch which is the opposite to that shown in the 35-41 Eickhorn catalouge I would be careful with that particular piece and suggest that if you want an example then you look at others that are on that website though I do feel they are a little overpriced.

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Thanks Gary for the information.

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Doing some more research it appears the etched hunter near the tip of the blade is a post war configuration. It appears Eickhorn offered a post war deluxe senior forestry short dagger for sale. Looking exactly like the pre-war except having a different factory blade stamp and etching on the blade going the opposite direction. So thanks again Gary for your help. It pays to do your research.

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Eickhorn Saufanger, back-to-back squirrel mark, from the 1912 August Stukenbok catalog, Saufanger # 8718. See "J. Anthony Carter, German Knife And Sword Makers 1850-1945", page 524 and note August Stukenbrok advertisement has all Eickhorn models shown.This was a recent E-BAY find. T. Wittmann: "I love this piece because of their massiveness. Looks like a fine example".

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Boar head Jagdschwert, signed "C. Glauth / In Frankfurt a/M". Sword completed by Carl H. Glauth (1827-1902), blade by "Johann Friedrich Eickhorn, Wilhelms sohn" (1784-1862). Owned by Heinrich Sticksel (1815-1880) who was the Hof=Jager & Gartner for Wilhelm Hugo Freiherr von Wetzel (1814-1886) last of the Wetterau line, Schloss Ober Morlen, Germany. This sword will be featured in the next book (3rd) by Volker Lobner of Frankfurt. This sword was also another E-BAY find. Collection of C. Wetzel.

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Hello, Mr. Wetzel,

And welcome to GDC. You seem to have a nice collection. Hope you'll show us more.

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Three Eickhorn's. Left to right: Saufanger with back-to-back squirrel mark. Boar head Jagdschwert with blade by Johann Friedrich Eickhorn, Wilhelms sohn with upper scabbard inscription by Heinrich Sticksel in memory of his employment for Wilhelm Hugo Freiherr von Wetzel of Schloss Ober Morlen, Wetterau. Unmarked Carl Eickhorn # 36 Hirschfanger with upper scabbard inscription "Carl Evers, 1926" and lower scabbard inscription "Seinen Treffsicheren Jagern, Zum 100 Jahr Jubilaum, Hauptmann Hesse, Gadebusch, d. 16. 7. 1928". Carl Evers was the 1926 Gadebusch Schutzenfest winner and according to tradition the Gadebuscher Schutzen Konig of the following year of 1927. His name "C. Evers, 1927" is listed on the "Konigs Tafel" at the Gadebuscher Schutzenzunft. He was presented with the shooting prize by Hauptmann (Captain) Carl Alex Hesse on July 16, 1928. The blade has the 1920's Eickhorn "Ges. Geschutz" hunting etch.

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Carl Eickhorn, Schutzen Hirschfanger. Fluted pommel with peened tang, single squirrel in oval with C. E. registered 1920 mark. About 24" overall with 19" blade with military and floral etch. A recent E-BAY find with no scabbard. C. Wetzel collection. Did these come with different blade lengths?

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I just found my Saufanger from the 1912 August Stukenbrok catalog, page 162 is the Eickhorn Nr. 791 from the Eickhorn 1932 ish catalog, page 9, posted on this site under the thread "period reference".

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A very nice, unmarked Carl Eickhorn Nr. 174 large hunting knife and small skinning knife with sheath and leather frog just sold on the popular auction site for best offer.

It was listed as "VERY OLD PUMA ? GERMAN HUNTING KNIFE SET W / FROG SHEATH, $825.00 or best offer".

I was thinking hard about making an offer but sent a personal message to Baz69 (Gary) instead. Gary could not find the listing probably because it sold in about 4- 5 hours after I found the listing.

This Carl Eickhorn Nr. 174 is also listed in the 1912 August Stukenbrok catalog on page 162 as Nr. 8720 Saufanger, Mk. 18. (18 Marks). The seller did not know what he had.

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1912 August Stukenbrok catalog, page 162, Nr. 8720 Saufanger (bottom right).
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somebody got a bargain

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Yes and i know what his offer was wink
Its a great dagger

Cheers
Ger

i was lucky to get a Salon-Hirschfänger in mint condition the 8717 model
Its the model 356 in the Eickhorn 1912 catalogue

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Wow!! Just beautiful, and mint.

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Honestly I would not have recognized the hunting dagger from the auction site as EICKHORN. Old catalogs and knowledge give power....

Gerrit you got an interesting, historic hunting sidearm in remarkable well condition! Congratulation!

Regards,


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I sent Baz69 (Gary) the personal message at 5:30 PM (Delaware, U.S.A. time) which is 10:30 PM (London time) and though he might not see the message that night.

The Eickhorn Nr. 174 sold at 7:24 PM (U.S.A. time). It sold about 2 hours after I found the listing.

The Carl Eickhorn Nr. 174 is the 2nd Eickhorn I regret for not buying. I bought a few knives, a Schutzen medal and a 1944 Schutzenscheibe lately.


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It looks like like i was that lucky one smile

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Stingray, congratulations on a very nice Eickhorn Saufanger und Nickmesser. The 1912 August Stukenbrok catalog: "Nr. 8720. Saufanger, starkes (strong) Modell"

Nice to know a member of German Daggers.com will be the caretaker and give the knives a good home.

Best regards, C. Wetzel-20609

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Nice score Ivan,

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Thanks Wotan, always a great rush to find a rare piece in minty condition for a fair price smile

Ivan i that Eickhorn you found!

Congratz

Ger

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