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I would like to share with you my little collection of Eickhorn marked Forestry and Hunting daggers and cutlasses.

I will do this in the same sequences as the 1938 Eickhorn Kundendienst.

First up is model No 1713.

This is a senior forestry cutlass with a pheasant on the clamshell, the etched hunter closest to the crosguard and white grip. It also has the late war over shoulder squirrel TM.

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Catalogue No 1712 is the same cutlass as 1713... it has the pheasant on the clamshell, the etched hunter closest to the crossguard, but it has stag grips.

And, it also has the 35-41 seated squirrel TM.

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Number 1189 is a cutlass, has scalloped clamshell, the etched deer is closest to the crossguard and has a stag grip.

It also sports the Eickhorn double oval serrated tail TM.

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No 427 is the same pattern... scalloped clamshell, cutlass, etched deer closest to the crossguard. This one has the white grips (called Eisenbeinschalen in the catalogue) and it sports the double oval serrated tail TM.

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Pattern 1059 is a cutlass with a deer on the clamshell, an etched deer closest to the crossguard and white grips.

It also has the 35-41 seated squirrel TM.

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Reverse Etch.JPG (39.63 KB, 824 downloads)
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No 1212 is the stag gripped version of the above... deer on clamshell cutlass, etched deer closest to the crossguard and the 335-41 seated squirrel TM.

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Now, we have a couple of Hunting Daggers.

No. 1692 is a stag gripped hunting dagger with scalloped clamshell, etched deer closest to the crosguard and with the double oval serrated tail TM.

Note the hunting insignia on the grip.

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a beautiful collection as usual John

See you at the Max
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The other Hunting Dagger in the catalogue is No 1711. This one is also stag gripped, has a pheasant on the clamshell, has the etched hunter closest to the crossguard and sports the 35-41 seated squirrel TM.

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Grip Insignia.JPG (39.95 KB, 804 downloads)
Obverse Etch.JPG (39.73 KB, 801 downloads)
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Here is a Forestry pattern that is not in the 1938 Eick catalogue.

It is a deluxe short cutlass with stag grips, a deer head on the clamshell, the etched hunter closest to the crossguard and has the 35-41 seated squirrel TM.

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And, here is another one that isn't in the 1938 catalogue.

We discussed this in another thread here, and the scabbard may not be original to the dagger, but, what the heck, I collect these things for the blades and the etches anyway.

It is a stag gripped Forestry Dagger with scalloped clamshell, a deer closest to the crossguard and has the 35-41 seated squirrel TM.

It also has an etch pattern that is unique compared to all of the ones that we have seen here before. It also has the term 'Ges. Geschutzt' or patent pending.

That's it for now, my friends, but I now that after the MAX, there will be more to follow.

John

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John-Superb collection!
You really should get a ticket to see Gary's collection if you like this stuff,its awesome!-maybe he'll post some if we ask real nicely!
I have been looking for a decently priced 1711 myself for a long time-tough to come by and cleverly faked these days.
Again, great to see your pieces

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A couple of these did actually come from Gary (the 1692 directly from him and the unnumbered one with the deer head on the clamshell came from Gary by way of Tom W).

I purchased the 1711 from another Paul (Hogle, that is).

Thanks for your comments.

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Wonderful! A real pleasure for the specialized eye. You know I also have a focus in hunting sidearms of this period. Shown elswhere in the forum. As a addition to your large collection would be my white gripped pendant to post #251529, the deluxe short pattern which is not in EICKHORN�s list.
And, as a personal gift from me to myself grin , a 1711 is on it�s way to me.
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.......and knowing you Wotan, it will be absolutely mint, and probably in the issue bag! LOL


looking forward to some pics

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Hi Gents,

Just wanted to congratulate John on the Eickhorn Hirschf�nger collection so far - looks great !! wink

Waidmannsheil. grin

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@Paul: Thank you, but bagged items are much more rare and difficult to locate than most collectors would guess. But it is (imo) a nice conditioned one with a nice shaped, deep brown stag grip. I will show when it has arrived.
Here is my mentioned white gripped pendant to post #251529, the deluxe short pattern which is not in EICKHORN�s list.
But nothing to top John�s collection!
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Absolutely gorgeous-and with ALL the right accoutrements-and superb photography to boot!

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Wotan:

I echo Paul... that is a beauty. Show us more, please.

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Wotan,

Very nice and I never tire of seeing your collection. Please show your addition when it arrives! Thanks.

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Thank you all for your kind comments. I don�t want to highjack JohnZ�s thread. Here only three pics more of my dagger above, I have shown them already alswhere in this forum.

Unfortunately do to the mad mad mad mail service the 1711 did it not to the certain, small show where it should be delivered to me. So I have to wait for a certain time to get it.

But in this certain show I was lucky enough to get more than compensated, see the "1051/1067" thread grin.

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Speechless....................

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Not maker marked, but listed in the Eickhorn catalogue as No 1447, a light hunting spear.

This item stands over 6 feet tall and is a neat complement to my other Eickhorn marked hunting and forestry blades.

John

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Very cool.

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Neat !

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Eickhorn catalogue number 1781 is a white handled shooting association dagger.

Most of these are found with the handle cracked since it was made with a very thin film of plastic over a wood grip. As the wood expanded and contracted over the years due to temperature and humidity changes, the plastic would crack.

At this year's MAX, this wonderful, and totally crack free shooting dagger was delivered to me from the great Baz69 collection.

I personally carried the grip in my carry on baggage to avoid any problems while the rest of the dagger rode in the depressurized luggage compartment.

Enjoy the pics as I enjoyed taking them.

John

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JohnZ,

Nice pig sticker! But that dagger is very nice!

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Super Stuff John, with the best provenence available.

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A nice addition this wild boar spear. We here call it "sow feather" obviously due to the form of the blade/peak.
And this DSchV with it�s uncracked grip and in marvelous condition is again a pleasure for the eye. Where do you find this sought after items????
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Here FINALLY is my 1711. Was not cheap but look what a dagger! The emblem nicely wiggles. The deep patination, build up during 60+ years is overwhelming and the stag grip - simply to die for. Hope you like it as much as I do.
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Like it? You bet! Fabulous Wotan, I'm still trying to find one in this condition-awesome,congratulations

Paul

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Paul, there are some 1711 around but imo you have to look carefully concerning mm, overall condition, patination, stag grip form and graining (imo one of the central special points of a 1711; I don�t like it if the grip is too heavy, it has to have nice proportions), accoutrements and finally wearing and age traces. So even when there are some few around and you are willing to pay the right sum it still is not too easy to find the right one.
Thank you for looking.
Much luck to you for finding the right one for you.
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That's a fantastic example of a 1711, an awesome sight. I doub't I have seen any better than this one.

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Thank you Gary, when YOU say this...! Interestingly, this piece (due to minute wear on the portepee and the hanger) was really worn but -thanks to collectors god ;)- very short and unintensive.
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What a stag. It knocked me right out of my rocking chair. Truly the best of the best.
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That is one fantastic 1711.

Love it.

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wotan,

That's one heck of a stag grip on a fine Hirschfanger. Just absolutely gorgeous and thanks for making my day!

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Wotan,

In a word, "exceptional.."

That grip makes one hungry, it looks like fine English toffee!

Best!

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Thank you all for looking and taking time for a comment. I have much pleasure with this piece. And, yes, the grip is the sugar icing.
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I picked up two more Forestry daggers at the MAX this year.

This first one is Pattern no 26 in the catalog even though it has the double oval with CE TM.

This is a stag gripped dagger with scalloped clamshell and has the jumping deer etched closest to the crossguard.

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