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three more.. 7 R Herder 18 Klaas 19 Pack Larry, time to turn the table 
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No luck Kreta. Try again.
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Last 5 bucks Kreta,, thats all I have and I will need a ride!
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Historical Stewardship is a Trusted Honor that must be kept!
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Sorry, Louper as well as Kober and K&M is NOT included.
OK, next 4 days are free shooters !
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With the exception of the one transitional dagger, all the makers have already been mentioned, just not tied to the correct eagle.
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Dave, how about these  5 Böker 7 Hammesf 11 Bertram 14 Bertram 18 Herder 19 Klaas 20 Eick Gerd
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Sorry Gerd. No luck this time
No. 18 is the only transitional in the group.
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No more guesses ? There are not that many early SS daggers and if you tabulate the above misses, you have to hit sooner or later.
I am surprised, as with the runes thread, that so few of the advanced collectors/dealers have not ventured an opinion.
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No more guesses ? There are not that many early SS daggers and if you tabulate the above misses, you have to hit sooner or later.
Dave Yes,now it's a bit easier  Gerd
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Here is what is left:
2 Eicks
2 Bertrams
1 F.Herder
1 Klass
1 Jacobs
1 EP&S
2 Gembruchs
1 Hammesfahr
2 ASSO
1 Boker
1 Transitional
There! OK gents. Last chance to win.
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5-Bertram
7-Gembruch
10-Asso
11-F.Herder
13-Pack
14-Boker
15-Eick
16-Hammesfahr
17-Eick
18-Asso
19-Bertram
20-Klaas
21-Jacobs
22-Gembruch
I'd love to get a few right! Here's hoping.(fingers crossed).
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Sorry, Andrew, not a single hit.
Try again ?
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Wow, terrible.Here I go again:
5-Gembruch
7-Bertram
10-Boker
11-Asso
13-Eick
15-Bertram YES
16-Klaas
17-Gembruch YES
18-Hammesfahr
19-Eick
20-Jacobs
21-Pack
22-F.Herder.
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Two hits, Andrew. Not bad at all.
In the next day or two I will put up all the answers. I hope that by now members will be seeing that there are more than just 3-4 variations and that the SS daggers cannot be accepted or rejected by the type of grip eagle they have.
Regards to all
Dave
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This is addictive,I like it! Another fix:
5-Klaas
7-Asso YES
10-Bertram
11-Hammesfahr
13-Boker
14-Eick YES
16-F.Herder
18-Eick
19-Jacobs
20-Gembruch
21-Asso
22-Pack
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suffering from withdrawl symptoms:
5-F.Herder
10-Hammes
11-Klaas
13-Gemb Yes
16-Eick Yes - SS Honor Dagger
18-Bertr
19-Asso
20-Pack
21-Hammes
22-Jacobs
Not many possibilities left!
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Thanks, gents.
I'll now fill in the rest.
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The ones with their name in red were identified by Members. The ones in Blue I filled in. Many thanks to all who participated.
What I will do in a day or two is remove all the posts that were made trying to ID the eagles. You are welcome to add your own SS eagles after I have done that.
As with the thread about SS rune buttons, I hope this convinces you that:
1. There are more variations of eagles than is usually thought. Close up photography really helps point this out.
2. That you should never reject an SS dagger because of the eagle details.
Regards,
Dave
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20-klaas-should be in red, same as 21-bert and 22-f.herder, me and kreta nailed them!
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20-klaas-should be in red, same as 21-bert and 22-f.herder, me and kreta nailed them! You're right,Andrew. Gerd
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I am curious. Does anyone know of the manufacturer(s) of the grip eagles of these SS daggers? Does anyone have an original apart from the grip, and is it marked/RZM'd ? I search my Assmann catalog copy and could find no example of this peculiar eagle. It is not a party eagle per se. Thank for any info. I posted this on WAF but the response was limited. Collectors indicated only two manufacturers: Assmann M1/17 and C.T. Dicke M1/47. Any photos of catalogs or the eagles themselves? Thanks.
"This hobby is a continuing education"
Looking for Walther Model 8 #727649
and Walther PP #975557
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Joe,
Good question. Most are still in the grip so impossible to tell. I'll search my images to see if I have a 'dismounted' one, but I don't remember one.
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Joe,
Yes, they were marked. The RZM symbol on one wing ans the M1/xx on the other. Detail on the back varied a little.
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Dave, thank you very much for sharing these images.What firm was M1/6? Does anyone know?
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"This hobby is a continuing education"
Looking for Walther Model 8 #727649
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The galleries on the right are pretty extensive, Joe. Try there.
regards,
Dave
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The galleries on the right are pretty extensive, Joe. Try there.
regards,
Dave
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Dave I have a friend that is looking for and Eagle for a SA dagger , He is looking for a gold color or bronze color, I am thnking they only made Silver, His is missing I'm wondering why he has to have a gold one Thanks Bob Here you are 22 different eagles !
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Red.
They were made of nickle silver or alpaca ... which contained no silver.
But, if "your bud" needs an eagle then beware as the substitution will be obvious
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My Name is Bob and I am a "RACE O HOLIC" AND "THE OLDER I GET THE FASTER I WAS"
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