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#250609 08/19/2011 11:27 PM
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In a thread a week or two ago, I stated that I did not believe that an early SS dagger can be accepted or rejected solely on the characteristics of the SS Runes button. My reasoning is that they were supplier items and varied in small detail by manufacturer or maybe even batch.

But I recognize that many members here feel that they CAN identify the dagger by the runes button.

To allow them to prove it, I will post 20 SS runes buttons. Each is from an early, maker marked SS dagger. I own some and photographed others. Some makers are represented twice.

Good Luck

Dave

Here is #1 - Bertram

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#2 - Jacobs

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3 - Boker Ground Rohm

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4 Hammesfahr

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5 - RA Herder

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6 Klass

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7 - EP&S

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8 - Eickhorn

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9 - Boker non Rohm

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11 - Kober

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12 -Bertram

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13 - ASSO

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14 - Eickhorn Himmler

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15a - Klitermann & Moog

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16 - Jacobs

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17 - Boker non-Rohn

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18 - F.Herder

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19 - Gembruch

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20 - Klass

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I really love all the learning to be done here,awesome!!!!!

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Dave. thank you for doing this !! 1) shows no one is an expert. 2)shows that nothing is text book.
I agree some items / parts were made by that company or a specific supplier.
it's like seeing posted photos or heer or luftwaffe daggers get picked apart ,because it's not text book. YET, the book(s) sighted only cover half or 1/3 of the total companies that made that item

I will not take this challenge , as I know better.
plus we all know SS daggers were under contracts year to year.
no one knew if next year they would get a contract , so why buy 1 million rune devices for this years' 5,000 dagger contract ?

also ,these "expert" books do show companies buying parts from each other from time to time.
Again thanks dave. jeff

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you're right ,dave.

it's hard to judge or simply impossible.

But a challenge
Thanks for "playing",

Gerd

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hey Dave , you're having a lot of fun with this , ain't you ??

but later on down the road you , with others will have to re do this & add to it as a reference guide.
"Possibilities of runes " per maker.
but as you are proving , nothing is ever pure textbook (I hate that word).

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Andrew ? Kreta ? any more guesses ?

I say "guesses" because that is what they really are. I think that by now you are seeing that identifying SS daggers by the variation of the rune button is very difficult or impossible.

I'll name them all in a few days.

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Anyway, this has run far enough. I would like to turn this into a reference thread so here is what I am thinking of doing:

1. Add the names to all the pictures I posted.

2. Remove most of the guesses and comments on the last three pages. Mostly water over the dam anyway laugh

3. Ask members to add pictures of THEIR SS runes

Since this involves removing posts, I want to make certain that no one objects. What say you ?

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Points #1 & #2 accomplished. Names in red were identified correctly by members. Names in green were not so I supplied them.

Now, if you care to add your own shots we can add to the reference.

Thanks to all who participated.

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Got Runes ??

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dave , are you looking for others to give you rune photos of their daggers ; to add to this quiz ??
just asking. jeff

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Jeff,

Members can add a rune button or more with the correct name or they can stick one or two up there to challenge us more

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Fantastic thank you!!!

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Originally Posted By: Dave Hohaus
Got Runes ??

Dave


Here is another one

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Hello Everyone, Im new here as of today and I hope icame to the right website..I own a ss german Dagger and was hoping someone could help me out and tell me what they know about it.

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Ok guys here's a SS Dagger of mine, tell me the maker .. Hint.. It's a ground Rohm.. Regards , Jeff

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Surge, take some photos and start a discussion thread on this forum. You came to the right place. These guys know SS daggers.

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Originally Posted By: forton
Ok guys here's a SS Dagger of mine, tell me the maker .. Hint.. It's a ground Rohm.. Regards , Jeff


Hmm,
Klaas or Herder?

Regards,
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Yep u got it ... Rich Herder ... cool

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Awesome post Dave! With your permission can I use this information on a dagger page (that I manage) that I have on Facebook? If so I will quote the source (Like I always do).

I will add a pic of my dagger's SS runes a bit later.

Thx,

Gerry

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Did any SS manufacturer attach the SS button ruins slanted more towards the left instead of perfectly vertical?

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