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#248317 07/10/2011 07:34 PM
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Guys....I have an opportunity to buy this......
I have not bought it yet...Pull no punches
Is it good?......Trash or treasure?
Best reguards...Dave

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The area around the cap skull in the first photo looks to be more cleaner than the rest of the velvet band. maybe this was a Police cap and then a skull put on it. Then the skull itself since this is a later type cap does not match the type of metal used during the late period. Plastic looks new inside cap compared to the rest of its condition. JMO Regards Larry


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Thanks for the reply......So the proper late insignia would be aluminum?....These apprear to be silver, because they are tarnished. If this silver insigna is real, what would be the value of this hat, for what it is...........Hat itself is prob authentic police right?.....Thanks for your help.....Dave


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Not police and not a crusher cap..

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David...Im no expert on SS stuff but from what i see the eagle isnt detailed enough (around the head, around the wreath, and in several other places and i have never seen a skull with that big a hole in the jawbone area. A crusher has a leather type visor so it can be folded in half and stuck in your back pocket or under your belt, etc.


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Thanks Rick.......These are the details that make all the diference....Best reguards...Dave


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This is a fake that's made in Germany, known as a Janke. (Michael Janke Co.) The big giveaway is the black shaping reed at the bottom of the sweat band.
Here's some photos of similar Janke fakes.



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Thanks for the info on this FAKE Karl.......It is good to know it is a fake and even better to know the details that makes it a fake. This is how we all learn.......Thanks again, and best reguards Dave


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Originally Posted By: Gladiator41

Thanks for the info on this FAKE Karl.......It is good to know it is a fake and even better to know the details that makes it a fake. This is how we all learn.......Thanks again, and best reguards Dave
Dave,
It's good you checked it out and didn't get burned.


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Looking at this cap again reveals that the cap skull never really existed at all but was a very good attempt to superimpose a cap skull on an over pixelated velvet band,, except the area around he skull looks cleaner!! Something on here still doesnt look right!!

Originally Posted By: Myself
The area around the cap skull in the first photo looks to be more cleaner than the rest of the velvet band. maybe this was a Police cap and then a skull put on it.


This photo led me to believe my own statement. The 4th photo really shows the truth and you can actually see the area around the skull is all "fixed" but poorly. The whole velvet band in this photo is pixelated, but the crown of the cap is not.
At a quick glance is all it takes because of the desire of this hobby,, but a slower walk one can see everything. Examine everything closely,, these wackos are getting better.

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The chin cord is not from the TR era. The twist "slants" in the wrong direction.


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