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John,
Not funny at all. I think that you should apologize.
Dave
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Dave,
That might be your opinion however, my intentions were solely as a bit of levity. I know Vern a bit and very much respect his honesty, integrity and morals. In the past Vern and I have corresponded in respect to numismatics and I simply felt that this being in that vein and as said, I simply wanted to instill a bit of levity concerning the event. The furthest thing from my mind or intention was to invoke or allege anything disrespectful, harmful or any disparaging thoughts against him.
If appropriate and as you said, I sincerely do apologize to Vern and all other GDC members IF in fact he or any were offended or took this message seriously or to heart.
John Pepera
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Iknow that I was very offended! LOL
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I wish I had been involved in this. No way would I ever have taken them to the mint or any other government agency. Europe was the place to sell these.
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I'm just finding out about this now. 1933 dated gold coins, I think they'll have a hard way to go to get them back. Neat article John
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Interesting article. I guess the US government are keen to get them back to sell and spend the money blowing missles here there and everywhere at huge cost.
Always buying Blood Orders.
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I read in this morning's newspaper that the court had ruled that they will be retained by the US government. Although there was no proof of any illegal improprieties or illegal acquisitions, however the government maintained that at the time (1933) they were deemed to be not distributed and illegal to own, consequently, they are illegal today. No mention as to intentions for their future. Hmmmm
What a shame! I'm not implying the family had a legal right to them but obviously being worth a substantial and great amount to the numismatic community, their proceeds could be assigned to a worthwhile purpose rather than becoming 'lost' in the system.
Who knows, even Vern may have been an interested party.
"Oh gads, I shouldn't have said that"
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Yes, the 1933 dated gold coins were never officially released, and have been subject to government seizure every time they come on the market. I remember a couple of cases that came up involving them while I was at DOJ.
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Great article: I have a 2 page treatment on this subject in my book History's Jackpot. There is only ONE legally ownable 1933 Double Eagle, and it was auctioned several years ago in a joint venture between the US Government and the private owner. It's the famous "King Farouk" example. Google it.
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Damn. Mine are 1932. I always get stuck with the worthless crap. Dave
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