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02/22/2010 12:45 AM
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Terry, thought that pic looked familiar , Nacho, very nice pick up i like it. steve,
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02/24/2010 03:03 AM
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Here is a new distributor (ED. SCHERM, NURNBERG) that I purchased from Denny G., also got a C. Lutters & Co. Solingen in two lines.
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02/24/2010 03:20 AM
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Terry,
Nice pickups both! Never saw a Scherm before, the Lutters with 2 lines is quite rare too.
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02/24/2010 03:43 AM
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I also found a version 2 of the H. Mutz distributor.
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02/24/2010 09:52 PM
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I have a flag with the town name wolfenbuttel on it,only the 2nd time i have ever heard the name. sean
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02/24/2010 10:06 PM
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02/25/2010 10:10 PM
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Terry thank you very much for that link. some really interesting info on the place. it was a garrison town at one point and also had witch trials there too!! regards Sean
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03/03/2010 11:18 PM
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Another G.Grafrath. W is like in Grawiso TM. Interesting...... Is it scarce TM?
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03/03/2010 11:19 PM
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Andrei
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03/04/2010 12:13 AM
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WKC distributor mark.Fr. Sedlatzek, Berlin W 8 Maker.
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03/04/2010 12:14 AM
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03/04/2010 04:12 AM
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Nice G. Grafrath, very scarce TM, in fact I don't have one for my collection.
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04/25/2010 05:16 AM
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H.Naubert - distributor mark on dress bayonet.No TM, but hilt seems like E.Pack.
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04/25/2010 05:17 AM
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04/25/2010 11:39 PM
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Andrei
Is that FR. SEDLATZEK, BERLIN W.8
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04/26/2010 12:32 AM
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Terry The distributor mark FR. SEDLATZEK, BERLIN W.8 belongs to Early WKC (king & knight heads)dress bayonet,short blade,magnetic hilt with the fake stud button. See discussion http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/...=514107532#514107532
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terry, thank you very much for posting this. very nice ,exactlly what I'm looking for on this forum. now if I can figure out to post a photo or 2 ,might have a couple to add. My current project is maker marks of ALL 1934- 1945 german edged items. & which mark went to what item. I like how the experts turn out books with out all the info. ,conflicting info. AND sell each book @ $ 90.00 +. if they would just ask a little help from people in forums like this, they would get a bigger better picture. all the expert claim only "16" makers of the army dagger, my list is at around 26 diffrent makers.... that was sololy doing web serches. please keep up the good work. jeff
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Here's a different version of the L. Worz Ulm a.d. distributor mark: JAN
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Nice, unusual version. I hadn't seen one like that before.
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Thanks to Billy G. for finding this one for me. Some of plating is gone, but nice to have a new one. I hadn't found a new Distributor marked bayonet (that I could afford) for a long time. So here it is Ruff ULM. Anyone know about this distributor?
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Terry:
Neither "RUFF" nor "ULM" are in my version of Fisher.
Now, Ulm could be the city, right?
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Good afternoon! Like such there was no brand. Yours faithfully Michael.
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Mike
Nice Weyersberg. I had never seen one of these before. Ron W. said it would hard to collect all the different TM's, at the time I thought I could do it, well now I'm not so sure.
Mike, how many of these have you seen with this TM.
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Showed to nobody except this forum. With the best Michael.
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Thanks to Billy G. for finding this one for me. Some of plating is gone, but nice to have a new one. I hadn't found a new Distributor marked bayonet (that I could afford) for a long time. So here it is Ruff ULM. Anyone know about this distributor? Terry, According to my knowledge the company "Ruff" in Ulm has been founded in 1854 by the cutler Ph. W. Ruff. It was a cutlery and still exists today. I assume Ruff was in that times a distributor of such bayonets, which have been marked with Ruff´s name and location. According to the website the company today is not owned by the Ruff family anymore. The company still offers all sorts of knifes, scissors, straight razors, manicure sets, etc. Here´s the German website: http://www.messer-ruff.de/home.htmlBTW ... "a.D." is a common German abbreviation behind names of German cities and means "an der Donau" = "at the Danube River"
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Here's a different version of the L. Worz Ulm a.d. distributor mark: JAN Jan, This could be the company "Ludwig Wörz" in the German city of Ulm. The abbreviation "a.D." behind the city name "Ulm" means "an der Donau" (= at the Danube river). Wörz was a custom tailor, which made regimentals, headgear, etc. Most likely he was also offering bayonets, which Wörz stamped with his name and location. Here´s a photo of his label in a tunic, which is for sale at Weitze (photo courtesy & copyright of Helmut Weitze). https://www.weitze.net/detail/53/Wehrmac...pe__143153.html
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ivbaust
Now that is great information. Maybe I should move this name to the TM list instead of a distributor.
Thanks
Oh yes, I didn't know about the a.D., that is interesting.
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Here the such has appeared.
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I have this trademark on a Luft2 dagger with no other manufacturer markings.
Here it is,
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I've seen this mark on the occasional KS98 bayonet & even a police bayonet once. Never on a Luftwaffe piece so nice job John. If anyone has this mark on a fire bayonet, give me a holler!
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Every now and then EBAY spits out a treasure. Got this one today and thought I would share with you all. Its a long blade WKC on the reverse and WHIL. WARMANN OSNABRÜCK Osnabrück is a city in Lower Saxony, Germany, some 80 km NNE of Dortmund, 45 km NE of Münster, and some 100 km due west of Hanover
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Terry,
I saw this one & hoped you might win it. Well done, it looks like a very nicely conditioned, dual marked example.
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Terry:
Nice one.
Congratulations.
John
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Terry,
I think you did a great job bringing this rare maker marked piece back from the dead. Very unusual looking logo, especially that cursive "Gloria". Not something I've ever seen, I suspect it's not something that's out there very much. The fact you restored it from the brink makes it all the better.
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Hi Terry , What colour is that wool plug, or is it the camera making the green look off ? Regards Will
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Will
The felt is black. Is it original?? Don't know, its possible that during that era black may have been used. I guess it needs more research.
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Let's bring this thread back to the top here.
John
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Hi! This is one that I don´t have seen previously; an early Alcoso distributor marked Alb. Loschër Hammi /W? maybe a city name abreviation? regards
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