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Westwall ring mit Kanone.
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A well know pattern in very good condition! What kind of plating it has? And, Benten, like always great made pics!
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Hi Odal, I�m not sure about the plating. It could be chrome and/ or nickle, perhaps with or without a bit silver in it. The base is brass. Thanks for your compliment about the pics. I think yours are very good too. About this topic........... This westwall-ring topic is going to his 30th page...and that is great.
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Hi! Yes this is a great topic, Benten! It grows and grows! Unfortunately there are only a few people here and bring inputs :-(
Thanks for your answer about the plating of the last ring. I think mine is nickel or chrome plated too, but in not so nearly perfect condition.
Ok here an other pattern we have only a bad pic here.
The ring is brass and 2 piece. Band and plate are one piece without a seam. The helmet is soldered on. The dates are punched in with dies. All in all it looks nearly like a trenchwork, but i think its a very cheap made mass product.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Benten,,,your WestWall ring 'mit Kanone' is an old classic. In the 1970s this pattern was very common, but by todays standards its a rare ring and in good condition,,really, a beautifully styled ring. I've seen 2 type of 'coloring',,one is a flat/mat finish silver wash type,,and the more common flash plating ,almost like a chrome.
Odal, thats another old classic. I've seen it many times but never owned one. That too also came with a silver wash at one time. A simple yet cool looking ring!
You both made two good catchs!
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Thanks G. for friendly words! I dit some searching and here i found a pic of such ring in my files! (Sorry to the ring owner!)
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Odal, indeed a good catch, for me one I never have seen before.
Gaspare, thanks for your reply. What could be a reason we don't encounter them now not so often anymore?
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Benten a few reasons.. One being in the last 10 / 15 years there have been a large increase of ring collectors around the world and this pattern is a 'must have' for everyone! 2, the ring is a pleasant looking design,and because of there isn't any overt 3rd reich symbols/emblems even the regular ring/jewelry collectors wouldn't mind having in their collections..
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Here are the recent Ebay fakes all in one place.
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Thanks Rob for showing this fakes. We all have to be careful!
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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o.k.,, lets keep this for authentic rings,,or at least rings we think are good!
Saw this on line. supposed to be a rifle shell end.
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Here's one I picked up last month. Good condition. Size/joining seam to rear,,early makers mark. No content mark, appears to be a low quality silver. This is a West Wall,,,I've heard but never even seen a West Front of this exact pattern.
Anyone with a WestFront please post!
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G., here 2 identical westwall rings I found on other fora, unfortunatelly not mine...
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I had an US picker that goes to Germany tell me that a few years ago they had found a sealed box full of these exact rings. 25 of them on bottom and 25 on top of case,,50 total per case. He said they took 10 and the rest never made it back to the US, they were sold to a collector in Germany!
They are part of the same makers series as the Skull West Wall/Front. I'd still love to see this pattern but with 'Front'.
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Real beauties and still a pattern i miss in my collection!
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Today i had 2 real beautyful new "comeins". Both in perfect and mint condition from the closing of a former shop. Enjoy!
no 1:
1.jpg (101.72 KB, 325 downloads) 2.jpg (103.23 KB, 326 downloads) 3.jpg (100.37 KB, 325 downloads)
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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and no 2:
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Both nice rings, Odal.
1st.ring; I like rings with bunkers and forests.
2nd.ring; A ring with D�co decoration around. Even the backside of the stone is nicely finished as a jewel and not flat, which one should expect. Top.
Benten
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THX Benten! Yes, both are a nice enrichment for my collection.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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well probably my last ring for 2010!
Good used worn condition. Marked Alpacca [turned my finger color in 2 hrs wear time!], nice large size, good detail.
No 'West Wall' on it but,, , I had this pattern many years ago. Lost and now another resides in my collection thanks to a overseas friend..,G.
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This is a pattern i real like too and still miss it in my collection
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Here my last "come in" in this year!
Again a ww-ring from the K WHW - and again an other manufacurer and some little differences to my other rings of this K WHW - pattern.
Slip well into next year!!!!
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Gaspare, the ring is in a perfect condition. Odal, good to see this K.WHW variation. I wish you all a "Good Rutsch" this Evening 31 december 2010. Eat and drink well, but not too much and stay healthy Here a pic of the Westwall: Winter 1944. I love these old black-white photos. Benten
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Cool pic Benten!
Lets go on. Here a new come in last day. Still in nice condition, but seam is open. I think we have this pattern still here
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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had this a while but i don't think i've shown it original box and cotton wool no markings inside band.
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Real nice! And i think a rather rare one. Mine has no box
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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A new come-in today. I saw it these days and it was real horrible expensive. But it is a ring that i couldn`t let pas and so i made a little deal (i payed still to much) and here it is.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Odal, Some of the WW rings that are around are kind of on the common side.. This pattern was and will always be a rare pattern. A very rare ring! Much money but after a long time collecting these are the pieces we need for our collections! Great catch!
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Thanks G.! Yes, this ring was a "must have" for me
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Odal,that is a good "must have ring".
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Nice rings being shown, hope my luck changes and I can gather up some of these. I use to see so many,but not so much anymore.
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Much thanks Benten! Mikee, i wish you all the luck you need to find the rings you want!
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Thanks Odal,
I haven't given up and will continue to beat the bushes looking.
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Here a new come in and a pattern we still havn`t here. Brass, silver plating, deeper sections blackend, in unworn condition.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Just picked this one up from a vet's grandson. Almost all the silver wash is gone and no marks on it. Fits me well though!
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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