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Hi mates, I come to your aid in this Daga SA I saw on the web, I'm interested in it because it is affordable for me, but first wanted the opinion of the experts before doing anything about it, what you view deserves?








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No opinion on this Daga Sa?

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Vassago, The SA dggger you posted is a later RZM type it does have some loss of plating and the blade has lots of wear but dagger looks original to me. My advice to you is be patient save you money and buy the highest quality SA Dagger you can afford. High quality and unique items will always have a buyer if you ever need to sell.You can never go wrong buying quality. wink Best Regards,forton

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Forton thank you very much, I will consider your advice, thank you very much for your opinion, this Daga SA offered me for 385 € and even if I spoke with the seller may have the possibility of lowering the price even me, but naturally I wanted to ask advice before ...

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I've seen this one loves me more than the previous course, but is much more expensive .... But it is beautiful in my opinion ...







What do you think this dagger?

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Vassago Your right that SA is a much nicer Dagger its a mid production piece by Carl Eickhorn and it has a nicely marked hanger.I myself collect only early production SAs some of which are posted on this SA Dagger forum.Remember to always buy the highest quality you can afford read all the reference books you can get your hands on and take your time, part of the fun collecting SAs is in the hunt. smile Best Regards, forton

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Forton thank you very much for your answer, the truth is that I like the latter more than the first but it got much more expensive, the first code according to their manufacturing is RZM M7/103 "Josef Hack, Steyr (Ober-Donau) my question would be if the manufacturer is very common or otherwise is a rare manufacturing ...

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Well, the manufacturer Josef Hack (RZM 7/103) is for sure rare and the manufacturer Carl Eickhorn (RZM 7/66) is for sure very common, but... In case of RZM daggers the rarity doesn't play a big role. I would definitely take the Eickhorn. Besides much better condition, it is a transitional model (with both factory log and RZM symbol), always more desired than late RZM model.

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Originally Posted By: 777
Well, the manufacturer Josef Hack (RZM 7/103) is for sure rare and the manufacturer Carl Eickhorn (RZM 7/66) is for sure very common, but... In case of RZM daggers the rarity doesn't play a big role. I would definitely take the Eickhorn. Besides much better condition, it is a transitional model (with both factory log and RZM symbol), always more desired than late RZM model.

But not as desirable as an early maker SA dagger. Like already said, go for the best conditioned and early maker dagger if possible and you won't be sorry.

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Hola Vassago.
Price is important, but condition more. I think is better to own a good single dagger in a nice condition thna a lot of daggers in poor condition.
You can drop me an message if you want to talk in spanish.

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Thank you very much colleagues, every day I enter in this post to do with interest your comments, as I have decided to acquire a medium-term SA Dagger and I'm looking for one that will convince me successfully, although I have no hurry, haste is bad advisers, with patient reaches the HJ knife get my first period with his motto in very good condition and I do not regret having purchased in time ...

HAL9000 is a pleasure to chat with a Spanish colleague about our hobby, I will consider your offer ....

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Another SA Dagger that just seem to find the first period which might have interesting price, but first I urge the council of elders to give me your opinion, do you think about this dagger?






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Most common amongst all early SA daggers - small logo Eickhorn, probably ground Röhm. Scabbard looks repainted. Good original early hanger matches the dagger - that's nice. The crossguards should be marked internally A-R or H-E. The gap beteween grip and upper crossguard doesn't look nice, but maybe it's just the wood shrinkage (I hope). If the price is right you can go for it.

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777 thank you very much, take into account their views, so many daggers I have ever seen in their views that are extremely important to me before taking any decision ...

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Vassago,I would keep looking, That SA has too many problems. the repaint,the blade looks polished,gaps in the handle ect. If you get a high quality un-messed with SA you will be much better off. smile Regards,forton

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Originally Posted By: forton
If you get a high quality un-messed with SA you will be much better off.


If money is not the problem, then of course...

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I suspect it's a parts dagger, the grip doesn't look like an early Eickhorn and the bottom crossguard doesn't appear to have the typical Eick deep accent grooves.

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I really appreciate your opinions, help me a lot to make this decision so hard for me, so Redbaron SA Dagger that may be a so-called "marriages"with several other pieces of Daggers other articles, apparently at the moment of these three that showed in this post the second is most suitable for a collection, "Carl Eickhorn" transitional period ...

Waiting at least see some more that would interest me too ...

Thanks for your opinions, I am always aware of what comentais, a bad buy me very unhappy, greetings!

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Hello, Vasago:

Wait a bit and takes an early dagger with a crossguard from alpaca, far more attractive in my opinion.

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Solingen friend I have always considered their views, how all the SA Dagger that I posted the best of all is the transitional model? Right? ... At least until you can see another earliest ...

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I think the transitional is the best you have posted.Two months ago I payed $500 US dollars for this early F.Dick SA with the hanger.With the shape the world Economy is in there are deals to be found if you take your time and look around...... :)Merry Christmas and good luck in your Dagger hunt. :)forton

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Forton thank you very much, you have a nice SA dagger also wish you a Merry Christmas! smile

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Another Dagger to your opinion, is that this is the handle with a few notches but still I see that your resume is in very good condition besides that Robert Klaas is one of my favorite producers, what do you think of this dagger?








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About $150 considering the bad blade, cracked grip, oxidizing / scratched crossguards.

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Well, I think the seller asks for something more Dave ...

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150 bucks? The parts alone are worth much more nowadays...
Anyway, Vassago, I don't think this dagger is an interesting offer for a serious collector. This kind of faults is acceptable when one gets very rare early SS for example, but RZM SA? No way, late Klaas daggers are very popular, so it's not hard to find really nice piece for reasonable price.

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777 thank you very much, for the moment I'm Decat more for the transitional model for Eickhorn I put that seemed the most desirable for a collection, there are so many Daggers SA is sometimes difficult to choose one, thank you all for your opinions and help.

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Hello comrades, I saw this key to the dismantling of the SS Daggers, SA and NSKK for sale in "Original Militaria", what you do you think? Original or copy "?

http://www.original-militaria.com/catalogo/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=2622

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Don't know if it's original but I can tell you that 110Euro for a tool that's bent and abused is crazy.

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Don't know if original or copy, but you can buy modern laser made for significant less money, than this one. I think in such thing like this, is not important year of made, but functionality...and this on your site doesn't look much precise.

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Forget it, piece of junk.

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Originally Posted By: lakesidetrader
Don't know if it's original but I can tell you that 110Euro for a tool that's bent and abused is crazy.


Of course I also found it very expensive ... crazy

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Another that might be interesting if the auction gets too high that is currently not before know your opinions of course ...




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Click on the images these are increased, thanks for your opinions!

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Hi Vassago, In my personal opinion with Late RZM SA daggers, the only thing that will hold the worth of the dagger would be the crossgrain. The rest of the dagger is worn due to the materials used and age. The crossgrain is not the greatest for this Late SA and I myself would not pay much money for it at all. If you have your heart set on the condition of it and you really like it, I would say do not pay more than $350-400 US at an Auction price! Regards Larry


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Exactly Siegfried B, if the price exceeds these would pass, while maintaining a good price and always interesting to me when the dagger is 100% original as you assure me, thanks for your appreciation!

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Hello again fellow, I turn back to you again to ask you your opinions on a new SA Dagger that I have seen at auction and if it gets too high the price might be an option for my collection of interesting Daggers long as you have your approval and price does not rise too ...










I appreciate your comments about this particular dagger, thanks and greetings comrades!!

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This one is an interesting one. Rare maker (8) and everything looks allright. Crushed ball is not something unusual, so if you can live with it, that's fine.

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Agree with 777. That is a beautiful tight grip to crossguard fit. very nice. If you have the opportunity,,try to get it. Good one Vassago!!


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Now that's a nice dagger


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Thanks guys, you do not know the joy you give me, to end the auction still have 12 days and if the price is affordable for me to try to get your blessing, I will tell you things, greetings and thanks!

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