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A dedicated thread to these achievement awards.
I have a few I will post now and then. wink

D.Sch.V.
Both DSchV badges shown are the Große (large) size award. There are Klein (small) size (about 3/4 the size of the large) awards.


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A 1938 3rd. place medal.

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A tad more color.

1943 Kreisschiessen Kitzbuhel

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Don Scowen has a thread that you should definitely view.

Tyrol Shooting badge roll numbers
http://phpstack-500133-1583587.cloudwaysapps.com/ubbthread...true#Post204943



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A sneaky move Joe, you knew you could tempt me out of the undergrowth with a thread on these grin

Here are a few that some may not have seen. Kreisschießen badges from Schwaz from 1941 through 1944. This is the gold with oakleaf grade (you could also get bronze, silver & gold).

For some reason they changed the design completely for 1944....

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Those are nice Don. I had to look up Schwaz. Did many Austrian cities conduct there own shooting event?

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Joe, Don,

Thanks for showing these, I like anything that has to do with shooting tradition and history.

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Thank you Gentlemen.

Joe,
In some areas/Gau almost all did, but I can't say about the whole of Austria in General.

There was already a large shooting tradition in the Tirol prior to the NS period & citizens were expected to practice regularly in case they were called upon to defend the district/country.

During the annexation, between 1941-1943 9 towns in Gau Tirol-Vorarlberg held shoots that awarded badges; Bregenz, Landeck, Schwaz, Reutte, Bludenz, Imst, Kufstein, Kitzbühel & Dornbirn.

Then in 1944 as well as the 9 listed above, 7 more towns held shoots, Lienz, Bozen, Brixen, Schlanders, Salurn, Meran & Bruneck.

To finish that off we must not forget the National Shoot (Landesschießen) held in Innsbruck annually from 1938 - 1944.

Outside of Tirol-Vorarlberg, in 1943 & 1944 Gau Salzbugerland held the Salzburger Gauschießen & the Salzburger Heimatwoche shoots. Also in 1943 Gau Kärnten, Spittal a/d Drau & Ferlach held Kreisschießen, I believe for the first time.

Not forgetting of course the Gruppenschießen of the NSKK Motorgruppe Oberdonau held in Linz from 1941 - 1943.

There may be others that I am unaware of as well.

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Don, thank you. These badges are so visually and historically interesting. I fought the desire to collect them for a time. That's a battle lost. grin

Mikee, thank you. Happy to share.

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Lapel version of the Meisterschütze 1943 badge.

Zinc base metal has absorbed the gold paint, still to be seen on the pin and pin retaining plate.

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smile Another lapel pin.

Standschützenverband
Tirol-Vorarlberg 1940

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A 1934 shooting medal. smile

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Undated.

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Here's another unusual one, 1943 Kreis Völkermarkt in silver, manufactured by Alois Klammer of Innsbruck.

Völkermarkt is in Kärnten (Carinthia in English), as far as I'm aware 1943 was the first year that they held a Kreisschießen.

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Don, I admire that one. Strong visual image with fine detail.
A really sharp looking award.

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Thanks Joe.

Here's another than some may not have seen. A bronze grade from Schlanders, one of the 7 Kreis to hold a shoot in 1944.

A note worth making is that by 1944 most badges were no longer being enamelled having paint instead, this is even the case with the National shoot (Landesschießen) held in Innsbruck.

However the badges of the 7 new shoots were enamelled showing I think the importance these shoots were given.

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That's a good looking enamel badge. I just keep coming back to look at it. smile

Nice one Don. cool

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1940 Landesschießen
Kleinkaliber-Meisterklasse.

I've been meaning to post this example.

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Very nice Joe, these are good heavy badges aren't they.

Here's mine with the other maker mark found on these C.Poellath, Schrobenhausen.....

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Joe and Don, those are really beautiful badges. Really like the design of the eagle! Are they hard to come by? Regards, Leipzig


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Joe and Don, those are really beautiful badges. Really like the design of the eagle! Are they hard to come by? Regards, Leipzig


Sometimes yes they can be hard to locate. At the moment though I know of a couple of websites that are offering them, the prices range from about $100 - $300 depending on the site. PM me if you want the details.

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Would anyone have more examples to post? Any and all, looking forward to seeing more metal and enamel goodies. smile

I have had a long dry period. I have some that I need to get photographed.

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A few more pictures.

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A couple of nice pieces there Jo, is the Pistol 1943 a Bronze grade? It looks like it on my screen....

Here's some useless information for you:

563 of these were awarded in 1943 (obviously many more were made), & 931 of the gold grade Wehrmann were awarded


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Hello Don. Yes the pistol is a bronze.

I wonder how many they made over the 563 awarded? Triple that do you suppose?

As I recall you wrote that lower grades could be traded up to the higher grades but if the awardee wished to retain the lower grades they had to purchase the bronze and silver if they attained the gold.

I have only seen males with the award. All images from you I might add. Did any females compete?

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Hello Don. Yes the pistol is a bronze.

I wonder how many they made over the 563 awarded? Triple that do you suppose?

As I recall you wrote that lower grades could be traded up to the higher grades but if the awardee wished to retain the lower grades they had to purchase the bronze and silver if they attained the gold.

I have only seen males with the award. All images from you I might add. Did any females compete?

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I've no idea how many more they would have planned for Joe, but yes as you say, shooters could re-take the shoot if they were not happy with their score & if desired for an extra fee, keep the lower grade badge as well. The bronze grade are the hardest to find because no one really wanted to have the bronze, they all naturally wanted higher.

Yes indeed girls & women did take part, not in huge numbers but shoot they did. For example in 1944 62 received the Meisterschütze grade of which 10 were awarded the 3 year Gaumeisterschütze badge as well for having recieved the Meister in 3 different years & a further 7 were awarded the 4 year spange.

You can even see by looking through the names/numbers from each year that some of them married & changed their names (but the badge numbers give them away ;))

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Thought that I would post a complete set of badges from one of the Tiroler Kreisschießen, Kitzbühel 1943.

Bronze, silver, gold & gold with oakleaves.

The version found with green leaves around the edge & "Meisterklasse" in the place of the word Kreisschießen is a fantasy piece based on these, thought to have been made by Floch in the 1970's...

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They sure look good all grouped together like that.
Congratulations Don on a fine collection of awards.

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Don, I recall mention of a book. If I can be of any small assistance.
When it comes time to publish I would be happy to prepay for a volume to help get the ball rolling.
Perhaps the forum would be interested in assisting?

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Gents,

Sorry I don't have anything new to add as far an actual medal, but I thought this might fit in ...

Don, are you working on a publication? If so you can count me in too.

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You can count me in as well! Always interesting stuff being shown, with so much to learn. Thanks.

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Don, are you working on a publication? If so you can count me in too.

Best!

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Thank you Gentlemen.

Yes that is my dream, whether it will actually happen we shall have to see. I still have many badges & information to find, & then the professional transaltion to pay for etc....

I envisage two volumes at the moment. The first concentrating soley on the Landesschießen held in Innsbruck between 1938-1944, showing obverse & reverse of all the various badges in all of the grades grades, along with attachment & manufacture variations etc. Plus information on the actual shoots etc

The second volume would be for the Tiroler Kreisschießen for the same period. I plan to also include in it the other miscellaneous Austrian shooting badges such as the WHW Tiroler Opfer-Schießen badges, badges from Gau Kärnten, Gau Völkermakt, Spittal a/d Drau, Ferlach & Salzberg etc. I am also hopefull of being able to include those from the NSKK Gau Oberdonu as well but that may be too opetermistic as the others are difficult enough to find anything about in the first place & next to nothing seems to be known about the NSKK shoots (assuming that the badges are genuine).

So there you have it, whether I shall succeed is another thing....

Cheers
Don

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I offer my help as well. I have many shooting badges and most of the Tyrol ones.


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Thank you Houston, that is much appreciated.

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The first three months of this year have been very fruitful for me so far.

Considering that I feel lucky if I manage to find one badge from my wants list once in every two or three months, so far this year I've found quite a number of pieces. Largely thanks to my friend Mike who attended the SOS with my wanted list in his hand, he scoured the stalls & found 9 new badges for me.

Here are the 17 new badges I've aquired since Jan 1st. I hope that the year continues in the same way...

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My, smile I see three right in the middle down that I've not seen before plus the lower right corner badge.
Very nice additions to your collection Don.

I see one that has holes in the upper corners, modified or made that way?

Thanks for showing the awards Don.

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Thank you Joe, glad that you like them. The two Landeck Kreisappell are new to me as well, I've never seen the design before.

The Tiroler Meister, I believe is one of a pair of designs given out at a shoot in Innsbruck (their wappen is on the badges). This one is for the Armeegewehr, the other was round & for the Stutzen (Houston Coates has one of the Stutzens)...

Here they are in detail, I'll only show one reverse for the Landecks as they are the same. The Meister is double marked which is nice.

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Now for the other two you mention.

You have a sharpe eye. There have indeed been two holes drilled into the Bregenz 1943. I've no idea why..... It is a very tired piece, I can't even say 100% what grade it is, although I suspect that it is the gold.

The final piece you mention is the bronze grade from Dornbirn 1944, & this one makes the set for this town for me. When I get time I'll scan all 4 in the set for you if you are interested.

Cheers
Don

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Thank you Don for the close ups. I would be more than interested to see the Dornbirn set when time allows.

So many interesting features to see on these badges. Not many are stamped in relief. Do you note this from one area more than another?
I also note marked and unmarked, round and elongated pin retaining plates. Much to study on them. You have your work cut out for you. The double marked Klammer badge is a nice find.

Now you have more in wear pics to locate. smile

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Don,

It does my heart good to see such an outstanding group of awards in such great condition, a pleasure to see. I'm also pleased to see they went exactly into the right collection.

A bloody shame we seem to have lost this latest batch of photos!? Don't tell me we're going into this kind of mode again..? ... sacrement !!! cry mad mad mad I truly hope not.

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