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Only to bring more life in this forum i post this luft-rings from my collection.
Please friends feed this forum, i am excited on your rings.
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
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Yes, Odal you are very right.
Do you have more detailed photos of these rings?
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of course, but in the moment i have some problems with uploading the pics from my pc into gdc??
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
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Took some time, but here we go:
All 3 rings are exact same pattern. Silver "835" "F*" "Ln". 2 are heavy used and worn. One of them the swastika removed.
So i took the pics from the best one in good condition - pic above the ring in the middle
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
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[b][/b]WOW!!! A realy beauty in top condition and sure a "highlight" for a ring-collection! I real wish i had such one too! 
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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A few really nice rings shown here! Thanks for showing them.. authentic examples are very hard to find.
I am going to list the names of the two rings in case a member does a 'Search' for them by title:
Beobachterabzeichen / Luftwaffe Observers Badge ring
Flugzeugfuhrerabzeichen / Luftwaffe Pilots Badge ring
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It seems this thread goes in direction "luft badge rings" - maybe we should change its name  Here is an other one. Other material (Alpacca), other band and an other badge. No stamps:
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
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Today again a ring with the "Fliegersch�tzen"-badge. This ring in brass, no stamps, hard worn and times ago silver plated (rest are still there). Sadly swastika removed
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Now a questionable badge ring. The only of this pattern i know. Alpacca, no stamps, nice seam, no so very high detailled, but not really bad made.
Please opinions on this ring - someone here who knows this pattern?
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
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I forgot: sadly someone has tried to remove the swastika on the last ring
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Odal,,I've seen this pattern around,,but for me not a period piece unless something substantial comes up..
The eagle is o.k, pebbleing o.k., the Luft. Rank on the sides,,well unless they had different bands there would only be this one rank,,but possible...
What I do not like: The germans liked their oak and laurel leafs,,,the ones on the ring are deformed, never had any detail to start with..
Can't hurt holding on to it!
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Yes G., like i told a "questionable" ring, but sure a keeper in my not so little trash-box.
Now again a sure period ring in very good condition. I think brass, silver plated, no stamps.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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You are correct, for sure a good well known wartime pattern. this one looks fine.. I have a cased example and the ,what I call ; 'Officers version'. I'll try to get some photos...
They used to be pretty common in the late 70s, early 80s , but now ,like everything else authentic, getting quite rare to find..
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Whats up friends?
This is a thread for everyone!
Please show us your rings!
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Members,, Please ,this is one of the better topics here,lets keep this for authentic rings only!
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here's one like Odals,,, and another [below] that I call the 'Officers' version. It is slightly better quality, cleaner details etc..
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another high end Luft. ring....
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2 more high end Luft.rings..
A cased Paratrooper,,,
,,and below, unfortunatly, a damaged Flyers ring
[thanks to John Peppera for helping me to aquire it!]
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Wow!
All real highlights! Thanks for showing us!
The "officers" one - is it yours? Some more pics possible to compare?
I am working this time one one of this pattern, also in box, so it would be nice to have some good pics of a sure period one.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Hi what is the value for a period authentic Luft observer's ring nearly identical to the first three shown? I just sold one that came with a veteran group for $50.thanks and cheers, Ryan
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Hi Ryan!
Here in germany i think the first 3 of this thread between about 50 to 150 Euro up to ..?
Its a question of the condition of the ring.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Lets go on in Luftwaffe-badge-rings.
Here one of my rings that i don`t really like. I have in this pattern no good "feelings"!
I own this rin a lot of years and you see this ring-pattern all around with different badges.
Often seen too on websites of famous and serios dealers - most with guarantee.
But, i told it, i don�t like this pattern.
Silver, three piece, onyx plate and badge hold on with pins.
All in "835" stamped silver and manufacterer. Some have a light gold wash.
This ring here, well worn, swastikas removed and gold-wash nearly gone.
Maybe is someone here, who has more knowledge about this pattern.
If it is a sure fake we move the pics to the other thread.
Here the pics:
1.JPG (95.42 KB, 287 downloads) 2.JPG (95.41 KB, 286 downloads) 3.JPG (86.14 KB, 287 downloads)
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
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* Odal,, This exact pattern is a fake for me and many others.. This ring almost got me thrown off a forum once because I claimed it a fake. The debate went on and on with the owner slowly losing. I get a warning for some mysterious reason and a week later the topic is deleted! They have been around for a very long time and in various conditions. Now with the passage of time they really look the part. Rings such as this supposedly meant for an officer were the highest of quality. These are not , even when mint. There is a site that used to have them in 'stock' in Silver and in Gold,,the same dealer still has multiples at the big shows here in the states. * Ryan,, Yes, condition plays a part,,and region/country. Odals ring ,1st post, center.. It is in good worn condition,,that ring here in the Northeast coast of the US would sell for approx. $200. hey,, get it back,,IF authentic I'll give you double [$100.] for it!  *
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 I think i know from wich dealer you talk. I agree with you in all points and as i told before, i don`t like this ringpattern too! So what should we do? Move it to the fake thread or let it here untill there is a sure evidence that this rings are fakes?
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
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For the new guys,,concerning this last ring posted by Odal..
When they were first made certain things did not have proper shape and detail. The answer was to artificially wear the bad parts down, they make the rest of the ring appear to be well worn.. Isn't it funny how certain parts are completely worn away? And, there is wear on the front, sides, back , all around. We've seen many times very worn rings and Honor rings that will have pretty bad wear around most of ring but somewhere on the ring there is a still good looking part..Just one of the problems with this exaple shown..
Odal we can leave here,,a member might do a seacr and at least he'll come across it here maybe without confusion...
Here is a slightly better photo of a ring I posted prior:
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This one came in on friday. Old box, worn, but still good detaills
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
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Nothing wrong with that one!
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New come in.
with box in "835" silver with clear stamp.
Ring has some wearing
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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A beauty,,nice to get it with the box too! These were very popular with Luft. officers, and they are pretty rare. Good catch.........
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Thanks G.! Yes, i think too it`s a nice one. Now i have all three of this pattern (plated/silver/"officers") in my little collection. And all three in boxes
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
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Odal, top these rings ! Very nice!
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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a new one in silver - enjoy!
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
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Hi Odal, that's a very nice one !! Nice silver and very good pics . benten
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Much thanks, Andr�!
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
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My paratroopers.
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Other my rings some.
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Wow, FJR...what a selection.
Just for my knowledge : are both the pattern by pic #294174 known period ?
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