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Posted 06 November 2003 16:59
As suggested by another member, I�m going to start branch specific uniform threads. It seems that great uniforms are scattered across are 6,750 postings on 18 pages and to cover all branches on a single thread could be cumbersome. It is a mutual feeling that this consolidation of branch specific uniforms into one thread will perhaps provide
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Posted 14 November 2003 18:12
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Posted 14 November 2003 18:14
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Posted 15 November 2003 17:50
Here is my NCOs Tunic
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Posted 15 November 2003 17:53
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Posted 15 November 2003 17:55
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Posted 15 November 2003 17:58
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Posted 15 November 2003 18:02
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Posted 15 November 2003 18:36
One I let go earlier this year
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Posted 15 November 2003 18:40
another view
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Posted 15 November 2003 18:45
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Posted 15 November 2003 18:57
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Posted 15 November 2003 19:03
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Posted 17 November 2003 15:05
The Kn�tel uniform plate for a Gendarmerie-Skilaufer with brown accouterments and Rucksack. This is the Gend Ski tunic with the interior drawstring waist that was discussed on the forum earlier.
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Posted 17 November 2003 15:20
This is the Model 1942 Gendarmerie Feldbluse worn on active service. The simplified collar and cuffs are the same police green color as the tunic body and it has an interior first aid pocket and removable belt hooks. The breast pockets are pleated and the hip pockets are plain on this tunic. While this is the regulation police
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Ernst H
Posted 17 November 2003 15:24
George,
the tunic with the drawstring that was discussed earlier was in fact a Bergrock and not a Skirock.
The difference was sew-inn shoulderboards (Bergrock) versus slip-on shoulderboards (Skirock)
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Posted 17 November 2003 15:30
Gendarmerie Wachtmeister sewn in shoulder board. Typically, these shoulder boards are removable on the Feldbluse.
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Posted 17 November 2003 15:35
Machine sewn Gendarmerie collar tabs. Notice these particular tabs do not have the aluminum edge piping. Some Feldbluse collar tabs will be seen that have aluminum edge piping, some will not have edge piping, and some will have no backing with the Litzen sewn directly to the collar.
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Posted 17 November 2003 15:38
Gendarmerie sleeve eagle in orange embroidery. There is a repaired tear at the eagle's head that gives it a somewhat mis-shapen appearance.
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Posted 17 November 2003 15:44
Gendarmerie Feldbluse back showing the one piece panel construction. The back has sewn in darts at the waist and a central vent in the tail. The cuffs have functional wooden buttons and are adjustable.
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Posted 17 November 2003 15:53
Gendarmerie equipment consisting of a Rucksack and bread bag with shoulder strap. The Rucksack is property marked to the W�rtt. Polizei and the bread bag is dated 1938.
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Posted 17 November 2003 16:16
Ernst,
I believe it was the Bergrock under discussion earlier. My error. Removable shoulder boards were indeed called out in regulations for the Skirock. But, like the Gendarmerie Feldbluse above, some field blouses (also with regulations calling for removable boards) will be found with sewn in boards for some reason. This particular blouse appears to be early manufacture with a shiny brown lining instead of dull cotton and collar tabs with orange backing. It is not unexpected to find such uniforms that are not quite regulation in every detail in my experience.
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Posted 17 November 2003 16:26
George,
Very nice setup you have here
you are of course correct that personal adjustments did happen. Is there any evidence on/in the shoulder of your tunic to suggest that the owner did the sew-in adjustment himself?
If I am correct your Feldbluse is the Second model.
The first model did have the pleats in the lower pockets. I believe the pleats where abolished for economical reasons but where in fact part of the original order.
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Posted 17 November 2003 22:38
Ernst,
I did not know, or probably don't remember, the original order for the Pol Feldbluse called for pleated lower pockets. Do you know when this change occurred? I have misplaced my copy of the original order and drawing for the Feldbluse. At least I cannot find it right now.
It is entirely possible that the Gendarm had the sew-in tunic boards installed, but I can see no evidence of straps for removable boards. I have a couple of similar field blouses made with sew-in boards in this manner. After examining them, I can see no removed shoulder board loops on them either.
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Posted 18 November 2003 07:48
sorry for the delay,
here is my Bergrock. It needs a good cleaning.
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Posted 18 November 2003 07:48
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Posted 18 November 2003 14:30
Outstanding tunic Orpo. I can never seem to find these type of tunic. If you find any more pleaase let me know if you are not interested.
Here is my latest Summer tunic with the speckled orenge in the weave
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Posted 18 November 2003 14:35
Collar has a couple of rust marks from the hook and eyes, buttons are removable
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Posted 18 November 2003 14:38
Slip on shoulderboards
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Posted 18 November 2003 14:42
eagle is on the same material
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Posted 18 November 2003 14:46
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Posted 18 November 2003 16:11
Gary, I very seldom see the woolstoff Gendarmerie field blouses but I run onto SCHUPO ones from time to time. I think there are two SCHUPO field blouses on ebay right now that are missing some insignia, so you might look at those to see if they interest you.
I am glad you put up this tunic. I will show a variation of your Meister Summer tunic that is also a Gend Meister. This fellow's Sommer-rock was made in the style of an officer tunic with french cuffs. Since a Meister can wear an officer quality cap with aluminum cords I suppose this fellow went one step further and fitted out an officer blouse with his NCO insignia. The tunic is dated 1943.
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Posted 18 November 2003 16:19
Gendarmerie Meister removable shoulder boards with orange rayon backing and tabs.
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Posted 18 November 2003 16:25
Machine sewn Gendarmerie collar tabs on tall collar fastened with two hooks.
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Posted 18 November 2003 16:30
Machine sewn orange sleeve eagle on green wool backing.
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Posted 18 November 2003 16:38
Back of tunic showing the same four panel cut with boxed tail as your tunic. The two buttons at the tail are sewn in belt supports while the front buttons are removable. The tunic does not have removable belt hooks but does have an added first aid interior pocket.
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Posted 07 December 2003 21:13
Just noticed something on a Gend. tunic I�ve stored away, pictured below...functional cuffs. Now, the right cuff has an additional button (Black, not aluminum) on the outside of the reverse?
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Posted 07 December 2003 23:34
Dave,
You seem to have a model 1938 Gendarmerie Feldbluse with adjustable cuffs and adjustable & removable belt hooks. Does this tunic have a first aid pouch and removable shoulder boards? Is it dated? Show us a picture.
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Posted 19 December 2003 18:56
Here is my only one!
But a nice one!!
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Posted 19 December 2003 18:57
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Posted 19 December 2003 18:57
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Posted 23 December 2003 02:28
Someone earlier asked for a shot of a grey lower rank Gendarme tab. Was it you Dave? Here it is.
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Posted 24 December 2003 00:41
George: To answer your questions: yes, yes, and 1942. Eventually, I�ll get around to a torso display and pictures. Lately, I�ve been working on the collecting room and finally making some strides towards the right direction.
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Posted 31 December 2003 15:56
Here is a greatcoat I got from Santa.
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Posted 31 December 2003 15:58
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Posted 31 December 2003 16:00
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Posted 31 December 2003 16:04
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Posted 31 December 2003 18:21
Gary,
It looks like you were a good boy too for Santa to bring you such a nice warm coat this winter. Is your greatcoat made of the lightweight hard finished wool with a sateen lining? I have a lightweight Schupo Medical coat made of the same material if it is.
George
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Posted 31 December 2003 19:35
Hi Orpo
Yes the greatcoat made of the light weight hard finished wool with a sateen lining. How Could you tell?
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Posted 01 January 2004 09:33
Gary,
After looking at several hundred of these things you develop an eye for them. Sort of like being able to spot a WKC manufactured KS98 bayonet from 10 feet away because of their manufacturing quirks. Of course, as soon as you get too ****y someone shows you something you have never seen before. I have eaten enough crow over the years to know if you chew slowly...they are not so bad. In my opinion, Santa brought you a scarce greatcoat. I very seldom see the lightweight Offiziere Mantel as opposed to the heavier wool greatcoat. The fact that it is for the Gendarmerie is an added bonus on the rarity scale.
I will post my lightweight Mantel on the Schupo thread.
George
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Posted 01 January 2004 12:21
Looking good there Gary, nice coat!
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Posted 01 January 2004 18:23
Hey Dave nice coat is yours without french cuffs?
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Posted 01 January 2004 22:46
Sharp eye Gary, my greatcoat is without cuffs.
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Posted 11 January 2004 06:59
Peaked cap
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Posted 11 January 2004 07:00
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Posted 11 January 2004 07:02
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Posted 20 January 2004 09:50
I believe this figure is to represent a member of the Motorisierte Gendarmerie:
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Posted 16 February 2004 13:33
Gendarmerie Offizier feldbluse for active service, cut in the military manner. This tailor made field blouse is manufactured of police green whipcorp material and has the same color collar and cuffs as the body of the tunic. The six button tunic also has pleated breast pockets while the lower patch pockets are not pleated in typical police fashion.
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Posted 16 February 2004 13:38
Sewn in Revier-Oberleutnant d. Gendarmerie shoulder boards. The dull (subdued) aluminum tops have a single silver color pip and the orange backed boards have brown Nebenfarbe between the aluminum tops and orange backs.
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Posted 16 February 2004 13:44
Machine sewn Gendarmerie Officer collar tabs with dull aluminum Litzen on orange backing. The subdued aluminum insignia was often worn by officers on active service (combat) tunics in order to be less conspicuous in the field. The field tunic collar is the same color and material as the body of the tunic and is closed with two hooks and eyes.
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Posted 16 February 2004 13:56
Subdued Officer sleeve eagle manufactured with a mix of alluminum and cellon embroidery. The wreath and body of the eagle are aluminum while the wings are cello embroidery.
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Posted 16 February 2004 14:03
Back of officer's field tunic showing the two panel cut with a slit tail. The same color cuffs are manufactured as French cuffs instead of functional cuffs with buttons. Note also that the collar is manufactured in two pieces and has a very fine seam in the back just above the center seam in the tunic body.
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Dave Cameron
Posted 17 February 2004 10:00
George: Don't you mean "Bezirk"-Oberleutnant d. Gendarmerie? It's a real beauty!
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Posted 17 February 2004 21:17
Thanks Gentlemen. Gary,I envy the condition of your goodies. Dave, you are correct of course...I reverted to Schupo-speak out of force of habit. Pat, I have some uniforms displayed on torso forms and some on clothing store racks. I buy the four arm cascading racks at the used store fixture outlet and they work very well. Over the years, I have gone to about every clothing store close-out sale I can find and pick up forms, hangers, etc at less than wholesale. Leaves me more cash to spend on something to put on the displays.
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Posted 02 March 2004 18:35
Couldn't find the thread on cuff title's we had going in the past so I'll just post my new purchase here. Its full length NCO type removed from tunic with some naping.
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Posted 02 March 2004 18:37
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Posted 12 April 2004 17:09
Here is the newest item, I do not usually trust these side caps but this one is a little darling, all the stitching is in the right place, but what capped it all for me was the lining, if you look closely you can see small yellow spots caused by mold. Very hard to reproduce.
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Posted 12 April 2004 17:14
Right side
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Johann
Posted 13 April 2004 01:56
Terrific Polizei uniforms in this thread. Here is my winter Gendarmarie NCO tunic and tschako. Tunic is mint, tschako is very near mint.
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Posted 13 April 2004 01:57
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ORPO
Posted 13 April 2004 11:13
Gary,
A very nice side cap. I have a Lubstein Gendarmerie side cap that is dated 1938 that is made in exactly the same manner. Does yours have a bamboo stiffiner in the crown to hold its shape?
Johann,
Nice uniform! You need a brown belt to go with it and you can put your black belt on a Schupo tunic. Your tunic appears to be the later style with darker brown collar and cuffs. Do the cuffs have functional buttons and is it dated?
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Johann
Posted 13 April 2004 22:05
Thanks George. I'll find a nice brown belt rig. Cuff buttons are fully functional. Tunic is placed and dated to Wien, 43. Tschako is marked Obw.d.G.d.R. Aleis Lantscham. ? hard to read. I'll take a few pics.
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Johann
Posted 13 April 2004 22:53
Very tough to photograph. This is about as good as I can get.
1. tunic stamp
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Posted 13 April 2004 22:54
Tschako stamp 1
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Posted 13 April 2004 22:54
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Posted 13 April 2004 22:55
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Posted 13 April 2004 23:24
...And lastly, The complete ensemble is a lightwieght sommer uniform. Next to winter woll tunic for comparison. The lightwieght is more like a cotton denim.
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Posted 14 April 2004 08:28
Johann,
It sounds like your Gend Meister tunic is made in the form of a 1938 Feldbluse. If so, it should have provisions for removable wire belt hooks on the inside and a bandage pocket sewn on the front flap interior.
George
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Dave Cameron
Posted 29 April 2004 15:35
Meister tunic with original awards and visor:
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Dave Cameron
Posted 29 April 2004 15:39
Alternate look:
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Dave Cameron
Posted 22 May 2004 16:57
Been working on more pictures, although I'm a little off with glare but getting closer!
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Dave Cameron
Posted 22 May 2004 17:01
alternate view:
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Dave Cameron
Posted 30 May 2004 08:35
The following Motorisierte Gendarmerie tunic is one of my favorites. Not mint by far, but loaded with real �I�ve been worn hard� appeal.
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Dave Cameron
Posted 30 May 2004 08:36
From the side:
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Dave Cameron
Posted 30 May 2004 08:50
Misc. Headgear:
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Dave Cameron
Posted 20 June 2004 23:16
Another Gend. tunic, something a little different: Functional cuffs, slip-on shoulder straps, two panel constructed reverse with draw, and belt hooks. Believe it was discussed before as a Schirock.
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Dave Cameron
Posted 20 June 2004 23:18
Another view:
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Dave Cameron
Posted 20 June 2004 23:19
Reverse:
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ORPO
Posted 21 June 2004 10:41
Another seldom seen tunic Dave. I could use one of these myself. A nice example of a specialized uniform to keep out the cold wind on the downhill slope.
George
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patrick
Posted 21 June 2004 12:10
Dave,
Very nice indeed, is it named or dated by any chance?
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Dave Cameron
Posted 21 June 2004 20:24
Not named other than the manufacturer info on the inside and if I recall correctly, the tunic is dated 1942.
What I wanted to post was a feldbluse but the darn guy was smaller than my torso form, a real runt!
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Dave Cameron
Posted 30 June 2004 00:32
Another tunic with removable Unterwachtmeister shoulder straps.
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Dave Cameron
Posted 30 June 2004 00:33
Reverse:
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ORPO
Posted 30 June 2004 10:07
Dave,
Is this a Feldbluse? I cannot tell from the photo if it has provisions for the belt hooks on the sides and/or functional cuff buttons. Is your map case marked to the Pol...or is it perhaps a utility case instead of a map case? Very nice, as usual!
George
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Dave Cameron
Posted 01 July 2004 00:31
Sorry George, I should have commented a little further about details. No provisions for the belt hook on the side and non-functional cuffs. As far as I can remember, the map case is named and the one-piece high relief insignia appeared to have been attached there for some time and I�m not going to mess with it since it looks neat.
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Posted 01 July 2004 19:38
Dave,
Very nice set-up. I'm a big fan of the lower ranked tunic's. Looks great. Does the eagle have a city name?
pat
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Dave Cameron
Posted 04 July 2004 16:30
Pat: Sleeve insignia has no name.
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Dave Cameron
Posted 06 July 2004 08:33
I'll post this old police accepted 1942 dated raincoat here since it has Gendarm shoulder straps.
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Posted 06 July 2004 08:35
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Dave Cameron
Posted 08 July 2004 00:27
Greatcoat front:
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Posted 08 July 2004 00:29
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Dave Cameron
Posted 08 July 2004 00:34
Closer:
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ORPO
Posted 08 July 2004 10:03
Very nice motorcyle coat and greatcoat Dave. I think the lightweight greatcoats are very difficult to find in my experience. It is also interesting in that it has no French cuffs. Is it a private purchase coat?
George
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Dave Cameron
Posted 13 July 2004 20:51
Well worn example for other ranks:
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Posted 13 July 2004 20:52
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Dave Cameron
Posted 13 July 2004 20:53
Heavy lining:
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Gary8
Posted 07 August 2004 15:32
Another side cap
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Posted 07 August 2004 15:35
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Posted 07 August 2004 15:38
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Posted 07 August 2004 15:42
Eagle
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Posted 07 August 2004 15:45
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Posted 07 August 2004 15:48
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Posted 19 August 2004 16:11
Just picked this little birdy up.
Dave,
I wanted to add this to the "SHOW ME YOUR SLEEVE EAGLES" thread but it has been closed. Is there away of deleting what is not needed in the thread and reopening it. It's shows some very nice pics
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Posted 18 October 2004 15:24
Hello all
New in today, I finally got one. Here is my new M42 just in from an ebay purchase, sorry Dave when you asked if I had some new stuff I kept very quite. Now you know why. Many Thanks to George for pointing this one out. Anyway here are the pictures.
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Posted 18 October 2004 15:25
Removable boards
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Posted 18 October 2004 15:27
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Posted 18 October 2004 15:28
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Posted 27 July 2005 14:12
Here is a great tunic I found this week at the local show. A most unusual tunic in the style of the M43 but piped, the collar is not added and the tunic is not modified in any way. There are no cuff slits or openings for the cuffs, and the back is manufactured in the M36 style a Fantastic piece, the interior is fully lined in cotton, but has no PO marks. I like it very much.
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Posted 27 July 2005 14:14
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Posted 27 July 2005 14:15
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whaou it's a EXCELLENT Thread Sir Unland
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Bill, excellent displays and your Gendarmerie collection is rather evolved now...I better watch out!  Hmmm, I think you need a rural police bayonet in the mix, which would fit in rather well with all that other brown leather!
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One of my favorite pieces of headgear!
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Lets see if we can keep the orange virus going.
Overcoat and visor to the same Hauptmann, both tailored by Wilhelm Welhausen of Hannover/Kassel:
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