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#217531 03/07/2008 12:28 AM
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First off gents this is a confirmed vet bring back out of his album. A Canadian infantryman in Italy this was taken off a deceased tanker wearing a light weight tan uniform and also had an africa cuff title. So lets hear your thoughts I know there have been other oddballs show that have caused much discussion but this one is the real deal and I don't have any bridges to sell you Big Grin

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reverse. I would think this is theatre made be it Africa or Italy.

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The first that I've ever seen, what a treat, thanks Paul.


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I have seen an GAB before but my jaw dropped when this came my way today and to be obviously genuine is a bonus unfortuanately have no details of the soldiers rank or unit the vet said it had an 88 and was taken out with a PIAT that hit the roadwheel and and richoched up into the body.

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Very unique cloth badge Paul. I never even knew they made these? Funny that you don't see fakes of these on auction site? I haven't seen any.
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#217536 03/07/2008 02:46 AM
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Neat patch! Wink Thanks for sharing it.


In Memory of Joe Mann
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September 19, 1944



#217537 03/07/2008 05:03 AM
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Show this on another site and half would faint wanting it, and the other half would go into pages of nonsense how it couldn't be good. Roll Eyes..

This would look great on an old beat up DAK jacket! Its so outrageous it just has to be good. Gotta have some faith sometimes,,Great piece!

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Paul, intriguing as all get out. Smile Perhaps some day it will be sighted in an old photograph.
Theatre made is probably the best bet, possibly a one of a kind.
As to the doubters, they will always be out there but the Germans did not always adhere to the regulations any more than any other army.

Thanks for sharing and were I you I would take down the current images and plaster my name across them before they show up elsewhere. Smile

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quote:
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... the vet said it had an 88 and was taken out with a PIAT that hit the roadwheel and and richoched up into the body.


If it had an 88, it must have been a Tiger I, which were in North Africa, but not in great numbers. Happy hunting!


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#217540 03/09/2008 06:21 PM
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I thankyou for your sage advice DJ. I had forgot how to copywrite but got into the file and as you see and figured it out again THANKS.

#217541 03/11/2008 12:33 AM
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Now that is a real weird one, I agree with Joe on the theatre made. I don't think it is an italian made one,but it could be, maybe he was a vet of N. Africa and it was made there. Very neat and interesting piece!

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If you ever get over to those countries in the mediterranean area and you want something, there is someone who can make it . I think this was sewn in ALgeries or Morocco something like that.

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A rough sugestion, due to the quality, this could have been made in Italy. Embrodiery is something that is done in the South. A crew or company could have well commisioned a Lady to have done a number.There is no reason for this badge not to have been worn on the tunic, as with other cloth badges.All in all a very nice and interesting badge.Well found and saved.

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Of note Paul Hogle of LAKESIDE TRADER has an embroidered IAB for sale not as crude as my PAB, and I recently noticed an embroidered EK1 on another site but not for sale and can't find it.

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Been a couple of years now since this post was last near the top.Well worth another look-see.

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still have it, still love it Hi DJ been awhile here every day on the trivia test, but not posting much.

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I still like it too! Good provenance, nicely done, but not too nicely wink
Yeah, it works.. You gotta frame it or put in a riker with either some of its metal brothers,,,and/or with other hand made cloth examples.. Yeah, I'd keep it too..............

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Found this thread interesting, as I have a cloth IAB.

Mine more closely resembles the encountered cloth wound badge examples.

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Fischer, nice piece. Thank you for sharing it.

I would think cloth awards and badges would have been more popular with combat troops.

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I was thinking the same way Joe.. Only problem is they aren't the most durable of insignia.
And,,even trimmed up tight there is a lot of white,,not the best for 'blending in' wink...


Still,, I like this IAB. Seems to match the wound badges.. Like the printed For. Vol. arm shields these too take a degree of faith!

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I seem to recall an image of cloth badges worn on the sports shirt.
Will attempt to find the picture.

--dj--Joe


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The only reason I belive this badges is real is because Paulbear has always been 110%, no reason to question him so for that reason I think it is super cool:)!
It is too bad the way the hobby is these days, there are many real items that people do not believe. I can't wait to be 95% collector and 5% dealer, I hope soon:)!
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This has been one of my favorite threads over the years.

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I find this totally intriguing and just have to bump it back to the top every couple of years. smile

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yeah I like them too. They are some of the toughest to find [any of them ] for a collection that I know of!!

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Hi Joe,

During the discussion there are mentions of a cloth wound badge and thought I would post this.

For me, it closely resembles my cloth IAB.

This example is one I have saved in my files and it is not in my collection.

Cheers!

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Thanks for the update, fischer.

Anybody talked with Paulbear recently ? He hasn't been on in 5+ years and collection of WWI CEF cap badges and collar insignia was incredible.

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Dave,

I have often thought about him as well. I sure would like to know what happened to him.

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Don, thank you for posting the cloth wound badge. It does appear to be like the cloth IAB you posted earlier. These flat-printed badges are the type that appeared to be worn on sports clothing from a period picture of convalescing troops exercising. Just cannot recall where I saw the image. Have searched books and online. Hope to run across it again to be sure.
The search goes on.

--dj--Joe


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