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I know this list is rather short, but I want to know if there are any other makers out there or other variations in makers mark other than the ones listed.
Police Bayonet Maker List:
Alcoso
Carl Julius Krebs
Clemen & Jung
Eickhorn (35-41 TM, double oval TM)
Ewald Cleff
Horster ("E&F Horster Solingen" and double oval)
Paul Weyersberg (Paweco)
P.D. Luneschloss
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As in found or catalogues?
add Seilheimer
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Brian Maederer had a E.Pack a while back.
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Both actual and catalogue pieces are fine:
Alcoso
Carl Julius Krebs
Clemen & Jung
E. Pack
Eickhorn (35-41 TM, double oval TM)
Ewald Cleff
Horster ("E&F Horster Solingen" and double oval)
Paul Weyersberg (Paweco)
P.D. Luneschloss
Paul Seilheimer
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Thanks for the input. Looks like the scope of my collecting is expanding rapidly  . Then of course theres the slotted variations for each. Any pics of the rarer examples (E.Pack, Holler, Seilheimer, Puma and Holler) would be great. Alcoso Carl Julius Krebs Clemen & Jung E. Pack Eickhorn (35-41 TM, double oval TM) Ewald Cleff Holler Horster ("E&F Horster Solingen" and double oval) Paul Weyersberg (Paweco) P.D. Luneschloss Paul Seilheimer Puma WKC Houston perhaps you would know if each of these makers produced both the regular and slotted versions of police bayonets??
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Fitz,
Here's a slotted Höller with 3R production aluminum hilt that I picked up some years ago. Been there but with a great blade.
Are we including distributor marks as well? How about earlier production pieces that were reutilized in the NS zeit, like PSS pieces?
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Here's a Henckels clamshell Tom Wittman had some time ago.
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This one is a plain hilt Haenel, also from Tom Wittmann.
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This is a Paweco from Eban. I've seen Weyersberg logos as well as the occasional Paweco which I believe is a trade name for Paul Weyersberg.
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Here's a Pack clamshell from Brian Maederer's site.
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Here's a Klaas from Richard Miller's site.
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Thanks Billy..those are great pics.
I've added Haenel and Henckels to the list. WOW!..a Klaas too, excellent.
Any type of police bayonet maker, including makers for clamshell pieces, short, private order, pss etc..
Alcoso
Carl Julius Krebs
Clemen & Jung
E. Pack
Eickhorn (35-41 TM, double oval TM)
Ewald Cleff
Haenel, C.G
Henckels, J.A
Holler, F.W
Horster ("E&F Horster Solingen" and double oval)
Paul Weyersberg (Paweco)
Klaas
Luneschloss, P.D
Puma
Seilheimer, Paul
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Late war production piece by Puma, from Eban.
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Fitz,
OK, sounds good. Here's a Weimar clamshell distributor marked by Friedrich Muhlenfeld, Barmen.
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Here's a clamshell, distributor marked by Wilh. Mossner, Munster from Eban.
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PSS maker marked by Gebruder Hartkopf. In cluding pieces like the PSS really opens up the maker mark category, there's a bunch of marks that I don't believe made it to 3R police blades.
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Same piece, distributor marked Walter & Co. Muhlhausen in Tr.
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Thanks again Billy G. I have created more categories for the listings.
Police Bayonets Makers (including Clamshell short, private purchase pieces)
Alcoso
Carl Julius Krebs
Clemen & Jung
E. Pack
Eickhorn (35-41 TM, double oval TM)
Ewald Cleff
Haenel, C.G
Henckels, J.A
Holler, F.W
Horster ("E&F Horster Solingen" and double oval)
Paul Weyersberg (Paweco)
Klaas
Luneschloss, P.D
Puma
Seilheimer, Paul
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Distributors
Friedrich Muhlenfeld, Barmen
Wilh. Mossner, Munster
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PSS
Gebruder Hartkopf
Mauser, A.G Oberndorf a.N
Distributors-PSS
Walter & Co. Muhlhausen in Tr
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PSS owned by my buddy Lance, Deutsche Maschinenfabrik, AG Duisburg.
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PSS by Pack Ohliger & Co. from Brian Maederer.
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PSS by Horster, pic from Gailen David.
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PSS by Henckels, distributor marked by Frister & Rossmann, Berlin, from Brian Maederer a while ago. Johnson had one a few years ago by Durkoppwerke although I don't have a logo shot to post.
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Great!!!
Is there a way of distinguishing between the maker and the distributor for the PSS bayos?
Police Bayonets Makers (including Clamshell short, private purchase pieces)
Alcoso
Carl Julius Krebs
Clemen & Jung
E. Pack
Eickhorn (35-41 TM, double oval TM)
Ewald Cleff
Haenel, C.G
Henckels, J.A
Holler, F.W
Horster ("E&F Horster Solingen" and double oval)
Paul Weyersberg (Paweco)
Klaas
Luneschloss, P.D
Puma
Seilheimer, Paul
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Distributors
Friedrich Muhlenfeld, Barmen
Wilh. Mossner, Munster
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PSS
Deutsche Maschinenfabrik, AG Duisburg
Durkoppwerke
Gebruder Hartkopf
Horster, E.F
Henckels, J.A
Mauser, A.G Oberndorf a.N
Pack Ohliger & Co
Distributors-PSS
Frister & Rossmann, Berlin
Walter & Co. Muhlhausen in Tr
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Fitzer,
Since the PSS are all reworked Imperial S98/05 bayonets, any maker (or dual combination) of the S98/05 could be found on the PSS. None of these makers actually made the PSS.
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Thanks for the info Orpo
The PSS is a pretty rare piece, so a listing of makers shouldn't be too extensive. By PSS maker marks I mean the makers found on PSS blades regardless if they actually made the PSS or not.
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Fitzer,
More extensive marking variations than you would think. There were over 40 maker marking combinations of the S98/05, assuming you eliminate the sawbacks. Some combinations with two makers/distributors markings change the order with different secondary markings such as Henckels with Frister & Rossmann or Anker Werke markings or Frister & Rossman with Henckels or Anker Werke with Henckels for instance.
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Thats ok, I've got to start somewhere. I'm just trying to gather as much info as possible. Cheers
Police Bayonets Makers (including Clamshell short, private purchase pieces)
Alcoso
Carl Julius Krebs
Clemen & Jung
E. Pack
Eickhorn (35-41 TM, double oval TM)
Ewald Cleff
Haenel, C.G
Henckels, J.A
Holler, F.W
Horster ("E&F Horster Solingen" and double oval)
Paul Weyersberg (Paweco)
Klaas
Luneschloss, P.D
Puma
Seilheimer, Paul
WKC
Distributors
Friedrich Muhlenfeld, Barmen
Wilh. Mossner, Munster
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PSS
Deutsche Maschinenfabrik, AG Duisburg
Durkoppwerke
Gebruder Hartkopf
Horster, E.F
Henckels, J.A
Mauser, A.G Oberndorf a.N
Pack Ohliger & Co
Distributors-PSS
Anker Werke
Frister & Rossmann, Berlin
Walter & Co. Muhlhausen in Tr
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Fitzer,
Here is my double-marked Paweco.
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Thanks Denny...
Police Bayonets Makers (including Clamshell short, private purchase pieces)
Alcoso
Carl Julius Krebs
Clemen & Jung
E. Pack
Eickhorn (35-41 TM, double oval TM)
Ewald Cleff
Haenel, C.G
Henckels, J.A
Holler, F.W
Horster ("E&F Horster Solingen" and double oval)
Paul Weyersberg (Paweco Solingen)
Klaas
Luneschloss, P.D
Puma
Seilheimer, Paul
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Distributors
Friedrich Muhlenfeld, Barmen
Wilh. Mossner, Munster
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PSS
Deutsche Maschinenfabrik, AG Duisburg
Durkoppwerke
Gebruder Hartkopf
Horster, E.F
Henckels, J.A
Mauser, A.G Oberndorf a.N
Pack Ohliger & Co
Distributors-PSS
Anker Werke
Frister & Rossmann, Berlin
Walter & Co. Muhlhausen in Tr
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Denny,
I remember THAT piece. Nice!
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Fitzer,
Not sure if you want to widen your Polizei catagory any further, but here are a few more types.
First, this long bladed KS98 police type that is also occasionally seen with the Nazi police grip eagle. This particular one is Paweco.
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Then there is the Baden police bayonet. This one is Carl Eickhorn.
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I've only seen these by either Eickhorn (two rivit grip) or WKC (three rivit grip)
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