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#208093 01/05/2009 03:43 PM
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hello guys! I want to show you what i got this very moment Smile

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#208094 01/05/2009 03:45 PM
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pic2

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#208095 01/05/2009 03:48 PM
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beautifully engraved look at the difference of the letters

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#208096 01/05/2009 03:56 PM
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all the stamps are in place, halfmoon and crown 800 mark

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#208097 01/05/2009 03:59 PM
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stamps on the knife, a little hard to catch with my camera

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#208098 01/05/2009 04:05 PM
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all togheter

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#208099 01/05/2009 04:08 PM
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other side

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#208100 01/05/2009 05:40 PM
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oh dear, who ever you bought this from , please get a full refund, sadly this is utter faked rubbish, so sorry to tell you,

#208101 01/05/2009 05:47 PM
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can you plz tell me were you can buy theese fake ones?

#208102 01/05/2009 07:00 PM
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dont know zoza, but there are wevvelburg cuttlery, these are not. robin lumsden has a peice , you may try over the rubbish site Big Grin{WIF, SORRY WAF}hes a member there,they may be eastern european ones.

#208103 01/05/2009 07:14 PM
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are theese fake also?

#208104 01/05/2009 07:27 PM
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thats my opinion.

#208105 01/05/2009 07:34 PM
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and how about this?

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#208106 01/05/2009 07:36 PM
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#208107 01/05/2009 09:13 PM
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Thanks for your opinion, but honestly you did not give me a singel shread of proof, you just say that they are Fake, sorry but i need more then that

#208108 01/05/2009 09:23 PM
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i have no proof, its my opinion that they are period enhanced cuttlery, just a gut instinct, are they yours?

#208109 01/05/2009 09:43 PM
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yes they are

#208110 01/05/2009 09:47 PM
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i will show you some more variations

#208111 01/05/2009 09:48 PM
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another one

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#208112 01/05/2009 09:55 PM
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as i noticed that there were private firms or lets see if i spell this right "jewelers" making the engravings, this one made by Otto Bardewyck in Oldensburg

#208113 01/05/2009 09:56 PM
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picture of the case

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#208114 01/05/2009 10:02 PM
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i hope im wrong on these ,but the cuttlery ive seen before had the old german script writing ,rather than capitals, also the W looks more like an upside down M . my mate seiler may chime in soon and give his opinion Smile

#208115 01/05/2009 10:09 PM
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you mean like this

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picture of

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#208117 01/05/2009 10:14 PM
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#208118 01/05/2009 10:19 PM
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that is the early style with small ss-runes There is a company mark Gowe Silbert 90. This was a very prestigious company that supplied even the dinner services of German royalty

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#208119 01/06/2009 05:40 AM
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They copy these almost perfectly.. The same design that opened this topic was even used a few years ago to make fake SS Wewelsburg soldier dog tags and other items [like the knife shown]...

#208120 01/06/2009 10:33 AM
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wich knife, like on the last picture??

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quote:
Originally posted by phil-brown:
i hope im wrong on these ,but the cuttlery ive seen before had the old german script writing ,rather than capitals, also the W looks more like an upside down M . my mate seiler may chime in soon and give his opinion Smile
but of course he only differs with me, hence they must be no good... seriously, have you done a net search to see genuine peices for a comparison? these look too new, even the box looks modern, although the catch is period. keep us informed please of any news.

#208122 01/06/2009 05:57 PM
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all pieces are from different sites, and are sold as original,, about my box , on modern cases the glue is transparent, the same with the glue used on modern gorgets,this glue that has been used is yellow brown and naturally aged.


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