UBB.threads Forums Edged Weapons SA & NSKK Dagger Forum Are 'Transitional' SAs and NSKKs valued or respected by Dagger enthusiasts?

I just love that Klitterman & Moog mark!! I think it is interesting how the rzm & maker mark is flip-flopped between the two examples shown! Wonder wich is the earlier configuration?? Kevin.

I must admit I am intrigued by the transitionals...anybody wanna post anymore pics of theirs?

Unfortunately it only photos....
m7/10

m7/10 another

m7/11

m7/112

m7/118

m7/25

m7/28

m7/30

m7/5

m7/53

m7/6

m7/85

Between the two threads, there are two that I would like to see in person:

- The HACO with the non-matching number. I am not even sure of the number as the pict is poor

- The M7/1 because of the quality of the RZM etch

The others I have seen before and they are OK.

Dave

I think I'll cry now. I sent some SA's to TTW to photograph for his new SA book, including my Herder transitional shown here. Apparently Tom has someone else unpack his daggers, and the guy didn't see the bag protected by cardboard(and clearly marked Bag inside, do not throw away).

After 4 weeks, I got the daggers back, and Tom never even saw the bag and thinks it was thrown out!!

He's going to pay me for it's value, but I'd really just rather have the bag back. There's a chance it was sent to another collector, as he recycles the boxes, so if anyone sees a Herder bag, I'm a major buyer!!!!


John

JOHN!!! OMG!!
As great pictures are that you take and as risky as shipping daggers is today, even when YOU KNOW what is coming, this is why I ACCEPT photos from those qualified to photograp to supply ones for my publications.
We, who publish, all need help from the collecting community, but to not accept what can be supplied is understandable, but also a great risk to the hobby period.
Those who supplied photos to me followed my instructions well enough to warrant NOT sending the pieces via carrier.
In the past where someone couldn't photograph well or could not have a professional follow my instructions often brought the items to a show and Margaret and I photographed them at the show.
A problem: yes, but I also understand why Tom W. wants to have the continuity of photographs and the presentation is better, but the risk is greater.
This is a problem, regardless of the answer.
JMO,
Ron Weinand

Ron, I remember thinking, wow, my pictures are good enough for Ron's new book...that's cool!!
I also remember you brought your Dutch HJ to the SOS for me to compare mine with, instead of mailing mine to you. I guess even traveling with them is a risk, as TTW lost a whole Cadillac trunk load full of daggers early on in his career.

It will make me think twice before mailing more rare daggers away for photographs. I'll have to ask myself, can I live without these? Well, yes, but how upset will I be?

Thanks, John

I'm VERY sorry to hear about this John. A terrible loss. I remember seeing a dagger identical to yours being sold many years ago by Joe Pankowski. It was bought by Jason and was in his collection for a long time. Could this be the same one?

Houston, I'm not certain. I have had 2 of these over the years. The first set I bought from Tom Johnson, perfect except there were pits where the runners rested on the blade and it had more bubbling at the cross guard wood grip interface. I found a second one, which is this one, which was in much better condition, and sold the first one. Now I don't remember where I bought the second one. At least I know there is another bag out there somewhere. Sadly, the pictures TTW had taken do not even include the bag since it was lost upon arrival.


John

Ilya, it would be great if you ask a permission or at least say thanks to the owners of the daggers and pics when you post them at the forums.

Thank you for the reminder. I am really very grateful to the authors of the photos. By the way, none of them has reproached me for using their photos. I hope they all understand that these photos were gathered from different threads of the forum and afterwards united under one topic in order to facilitate the usage of this complex data for all collectors.

Thanks to all for your understanding.

John, WOW that is a REAL loss to the hobby! I to hate sending out rare daggers as I have had several STOMPED on buy UPS and USPS. A-Holes!

UPS Quality

Even saw the UPS man toss it on the door step like is was soooooooooooo hard to bend over to lay it down. Just think they get paid 80k a year?????

Moral of the story........DON'T SKIMP ON THE PACKAGING MATERIALS!

Eric,
Thats a tragedy, I love see-ing these personalised pieces and its amazing to see how many are dedicated to Dr's. It looks like a great dagger and certainly not KLAAS treatment by the postie.
Can you claim for damages?.

QUite a few of the Dr.s are PhDs.

Dang Eric, I guess it could be called a train car dent...sounds more exotic than a UPS footprint.

John