#20309
05/29/2009 02:53 AM
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I am looking at this ring let me know what you think the ring is marke 835 on under side of skull no other markings.
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#20310
05/29/2009 02:54 AM
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#20311
05/29/2009 02:55 AM
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#20312
05/29/2009 04:23 AM
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Its a well known wartime pattern. From the pics i think it could be a good one. Maybe better pics from the inside, stamp and seam if there is one to see.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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#20313
05/29/2009 05:40 AM
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I concur with Odal... Thats a good looking pattern,,so far looks like you got a good one.
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#20314
05/29/2009 07:29 AM
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Pattern is well known, but this specific is casted example
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#20315
05/30/2009 02:08 AM
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Thanks guys ill try to get more pics if i can .Hapur you think this is not good because of the seam on the last pic?
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#20316
05/30/2009 03:07 AM
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first,, I've been having a problem openning photos here. Usually one or 2 only open half way, weird.. Anyone else with this problem? 2nd, if someone has a problem with a ring please point out the concerns... And as always,,good photos rule! , always post as many and different views as possible. Use up the photo size limit,,it is 100kb now I think...
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#20317
05/30/2009 03:41 AM
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quote: Originally posted by chacopa69: Thanks guys ill try to get more pics if i can .Hapur you think this is not good because of the seam on the last pic?
the seam is a curiosity. Cool ring though! The luster looks dead on. Stamp pics will help to authenticate. Back of skull would be interesting to see too!? Cheers
In Memory of Joe Mann Medal of Honor Recipient July 8, 1922 � September 19, 1944
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#20318
05/30/2009 07:05 PM
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Hi, not sure it's seam, ok let's leave it. Right blow "seam" is casting flaw, see arrows on pic. Then one more point to look for is on band marked 2. No way it could be stamped, on die can not be such "thing" where metal flows arround, it will be impossible to get ring out of die. Next thing there between bones are "footprints" of excessive wax from rubber mold. That is a result of low grade wax injector or rubber mold being held in hands without clamp during wax injection or bad rubber mold or there are few more possibilities. On ring we see it as metal between bones, snakes instead of thru holes between bones, snakes. Hope this is enough to proove it is casted. Picture of inside most likely would show more of casting traces.
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#20319
05/31/2009 05:57 AM
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can't really see what #2 is,, on original 2nd photo [only photo that fully opens for me!] of area just looks like a black smudge/build up point.
#1,,I've seen repairs to a die and they'd make an area similar like that. Especially on this pattern with the holes/clear areas by snakes head [a weak spot],,,or yes a bleed out from wax. But if so there would be correction after it was molded .. Is that mark the correction ..
Could be the lighting used for photo , but this rings got some good coloring to it, and just enough ageing. Yes that can all be done by a counterfeiter,,,if you get a chance please, some better photos all around...
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