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Thanks Joe

Thank you. I incorrectly assumed the maker mark on the Wilhelm Binder piece was WTB. Now I see it is W (hammer) B.

--dj--Joe

Sorry to come in late, but the very last unknown looks to be the Raymond & Nichols mark....

Don, I can't make out an R on the example in question. I recall you have a sharp image of the Raymond & Nichols mark. Did Raymond & Nichols have variant marks to your knowledge?

--dj--Joe

It may not be for them, I’ve not seen one with the circle before, but the large “N” looks to have a letter “R” in the centre.

This is the only image I have access to at the moment.

The second B inside a circle looks to be Bauscher & Co. Gmbh

On the first page, has that mark been identified? Better closeup please.

I'm sure I have a reference that shows some attachments. I wll have to dig it out.

The first B inside a circle could be Otto Bortenreuter. I'm not 100 percent sure on this one.

Don, I see the "N" and "R" clearly on the last image you posted. On the image posted by Peter it appears to me to be a circle with an "N" with a "0" superimposed on the diagonal leg and "something within the "0" (?)

This is really testing my vocabulary and imagination.

Mikee, the "B" in a circle - do you have images of the maker marks? I have seen some on the silver hallmarks sites and they don't quite match. I did not locate Bauscher & Co. Gmbh.

From the first page are you referencing the HB under a crown mark? If so I will let Don answer.

--dj--Joe

Joe,

I see the same letters as you.

Sorry not the Herman Bauer maker mark. It was a maker mark posted by Bushido on the first page. Which look like a tool, tongs maybe.

The first B inside a circle I'm not sure of because as you know the B isn't exactly the same, but sometimes the actual stamp mark is different from the actual printed mark due to distortion.

The second B inside a circle is the closest match I could find, so maybe. We need more examples. see posted picture.

Mikee, image 202202 by: Bushido. I don't know what that is. For a time I thought deer skull with one horn showing. Too much obscured by the pin. (Perhaps a crab with pincers)?

The second "B" in a circle does resemble Your image of Bauscher & Co.

--dj--Joe

Hey Joe,

I really think so as well but more examples would help. A lot of the time gold and silversmiths use items and or tools of the trade for maker marks. Would love to get a better picture of it.Best!

Mikee,

I don't have any "B" in a circle marked items in my collection.

I have seen various other "B" in a circle marked pieces that were post war (repro's).

I will scout about the internet and see what there is to see.

Wish we could get a better look at the mark on Bushido's badge.

--dj--Joe

On reflection I agree that it probably isn't Raymond & Nichols, just wishfull thinking on my part.

It's good to know however that there was a maker that actually used the "B" in a circle. Unfortunately as Joe mentioned, it has become a favourite mark for fakers on many small badges & like many small badge collectors I have chosen to avoid them....