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#201927 11/19/2007 12:22 AM
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I just picked up what is basically an unissued 1st Luft by Helbig. The keather is flawless! Not a scratch or scuff. The wire around the handle appears perfect. I am an SA dagger guy. Can anyone give me info on this? Should the chain be on the left or right of the dagger? Does the dagger go into the scabbard with the maker mark in the front or the back? Is the maker mark side of the blade the front or back?

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#201928 11/19/2007 12:43 AM
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Nice dagger can not remember ever seeing an aluminum Helbig-chain would be on the right side looking at the dagger from the front. Most accepted way the maker mark is on the back of the blade. Some exceptions to this would be army & 2nd model lufts as well as navy daggers had the maker mark facing the front in some cases.


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#201929 11/19/2007 12:57 AM
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Thanks Tom. So its just like an SA. Hanger on right mark on back. I was looking some SA's when the guy pulled this out. It was so nice I couldnt pass it up. It really looks new. ANy idea of value in this condition? I have seen a few on Craigs site for $1895 and less. His are nice but this is perfect.


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#201930 11/19/2007 01:26 AM
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With a little looking you could land a nice aluminum 1st model for around the 1K mark plus or minus.


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#201931 11/19/2007 02:33 AM
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Is Helbig a rare or common maker?


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#201932 11/19/2007 02:36 AM
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Fairly common on the early nickel silver but as I said I don�t remember ever seeing an aluminum model by this maker.


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#201933 11/19/2007 02:42 AM
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Thanks Tom


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Bob, that is a wonderful Luft ! Eek
Probably the nicest one that I have ever seen and by a very rare maker.
Congrats on a great catch ! Cool

#201935 11/19/2007 04:05 AM
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Thanks Pat.


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