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#19997 02/01/2010 10:50 PM
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Hi

Could you please take a look at this IAB and tell me what you think of it ????

Thanks !!!

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#19999 02/02/2010 02:16 AM
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sorry i dont like this one...

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Hello

Could you post a straight away pic of the obverse so the entire eagle can be seen (like the example I posted)? A scan would be even better.

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I hope these pics are good enough.

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Gotta get myself a new camera Roll Eyes

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Better pic

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Hello

Thank you for the much better pics, makes identifying the badge much easier.

This badge belongs to the Vienna Family of IAB's.

There are about ten different variants with only four of them known by there maker. These examples are as follows:
R. Souval (R.S.)
F. Orth (F.O.)
W. Hobacher (W.H.)
Grossmann & Co (GR&Co.)

The other six are referred to by nicknames from collectors for ease in identifying them.

Your example is an unknown variant in worn condition referred to by collectors as a Vienna "Deep Scooped" hollow rifle with a wrap around hinge.

Your example can also be found with a barrel hinge.


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Thanks A LOT for a VERY FULFILLING answer !!!

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Your Welcome...Hope I was able to help.

The reason these are all considered Vienna design variants is the closeness of the obverse details.

For example, compare this R. Souval with the one you posted. Obverse details are quite similar IMO.

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The difference is in the hardware...

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Your help is VERY appreciated - in fact I thought it was a copy !!!

Thanks ever so much !!!


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Your Welcome...Hope I was able to help.

The reason these are all considered Vienna design variants is the closeness of the obverse details.

For example, compare this R. Souval with the one you posted. Obverse details are quite similar IMO.


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