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#199095 11/25/2005 01:03 PM
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Hello!
Question to experts. It is the original or a fake?

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#199100 11/25/2005 06:33 PM
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I am far from an expert but from looking at these photos, it looks good to me.

#199101 11/25/2005 07:35 PM
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In that condition, would anyone hazzard a guess as to what it would be worth.

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I'll take a wild guess and say about $14000.00.

#199103 11/25/2005 08:52 PM
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Please take better pictures of the Rohm inscription.

#199104 11/25/2005 09:34 PM
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The price would maybe right when the dagger is 110% original but who know it from this pictures. Even I would“t pay it when the dagger is original. Better pictures please, how is the screw on the revers? Untouched? Are the crossguards marked and how? Anodized scabbard? Such daggers needs the best inspections!

#199105 11/25/2005 09:39 PM
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Ilya... if you're thinking of buying this, make sure you can get an inspection period to have it authenticated.

#199106 11/26/2005 02:37 PM
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$14,000 (£8,000 GBP) surly that cant be right..

I picked one up earlier this year for $1500 (including some other bits and bobs) from the soldiers daughter, almost idential to the one pictured, a herder name ground only.. which i knew was a bit of a bargin.

i was checking out the going price at the time and a couple were on uk dealers site for approx
$5,500 (£3,200 GBP) they cant have gone up that much..

ps. they are not for sale on the dealers sites any more ...


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#199107 11/26/2005 04:18 PM
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There's one available on this site:

http://www.regimentals.co.uk/shop/shop.php

For £7500.00

It sounds like you have been extremely lucky.

#199108 11/26/2005 04:24 PM
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I think you referring to the SS Himmler dagger ??


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#199109 11/26/2005 04:30 PM
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Yes, my mistake.

I still say you very lucky with that price though.

#199110 11/27/2005 01:54 PM
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??. Thank for the stated opinions. In some days I can photograph all parts of a dagger to be sure in its authenticity. I shall be grateful, if dear experts will help me to define, whether the original motto on a dagger or is a fake. That a dagger original and in very good condition, doubts are not present.

#199111 11/30/2005 01:53 PM
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laughing at the prices mentioned here...smile...fellows this is a "ground" Roehm...notice the name is missing...therefore...a reasonable price would be much much less...your SteinMeister...Roland.

#199112 11/30/2005 03:19 PM
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Yes, agreed.

As stirnpanzer stated, he picked one up for $1500.00, (which I think is a great price), especially in the UK... don't know how it fares in the States?

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Was a little surprised, when has read, that so it is easy to buy such dagger for 1500. Even it seemed to me, that it is at everyone. Very much would like to see them on this forum.

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#199118 11/30/2005 09:52 PM
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hi,

I got lucky with the price i paid... Smile

The seller's were happy... they also sent me various small items the vet picked up.

They seemed happy just to be rid of it.

Most interesting was a copy of his scrap book, following his landing in italy ....and moving up north...some nice photos / passes...


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Ilya, your dagger looks to be real. However, there are some tests you can't do unless the dagger is physically present.

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What it for tests? A dagger at me.

#199121 12/03/2005 04:25 PM
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How to me to be convinced, what the motto on a dagger the original?
That a dagger not a fake, I have understood.

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Ilya, if your dagger is real, then all the answers are there.

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?? wizard2 . Thank you!

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Here is my partial for comparrison. Hope this will help......Jimmy

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The first dagger posted is 100% real in my opinion. Viper your dagger is really nice with parts of the name still showing. I think close to five figures for yours. Personally I'd rather have a name only ground Rohm than a full Rohm because it tells the story. But that's just me...

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quote:
Originally posted by Skyline Drive:
The first dagger posted is 100% real in my opinion. Viper your dagger is really nice with parts of the name still showing. I think close to five figures for yours. Personally I'd rather have a name only ground Rohm than a full Rohm because it tells the story. But that's just me...


I agree with Skyline.

Maybe my original guess as to what it's worth wasn't that bad after all?

I think stirnpanzer got a great price on his. I wouldn't mind seeing some photos for comparison.

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will get snapping and post some pics.... Smile


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Thanks Skyline. I like the name only ones too. If you hold it right you can see every letter. Plus it fits in with my ROHM: GOING GOING GONE display. Big Grin


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