UBB.threads Forums Edged Weapons HJ Edged Weapons Forum Updated HJ List by Lance

I have reworked our HJ list and can email it to you in word. Its not a rarity list but a list of observed HJs. Lance

Lance can you pls email me.
Paul

Hi Lance can i have a copy please:

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cheers
Tony

Could i add Fernando Esser & Cie to the list??

I am also very interested, thanks Lance!
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Lance,
Please send me the list.Also, do you know how common Rob Muller is?

Please send, I would love to have a copy of the "Russ List". Thank you and all the best.

hi Lance can you send it to me please. these sort of lists are very helpful to collectors
email: [email protected]
thanks
Sean

Russ Neighbors/Lance Neighbors 28 South Main Street Marion NC 28752
Fax 828/659-7877 [email protected]

HJs: 82 w/maker mark, 13 RZM only; total: 95 makers verified, 2 unidentified (M7/1+ & RZM only) Total different makers-97 & 2 questionable

Altenbach & Sohn, Peter Schwanenwerk �Garantie� diamond ring nM
Gerb. Bell Solingen Gr. GG, Motto, NR
Gerb. Bell NR, nM
F. W. Backhaus Solingen GG Motto NR
A. M. Bronn trans 7/87 nM �AM Bronn etch on Ric w/maker mark
Karl Bocker trans 7/45 Motto ric 1938
H. Boker & Co. Solingen Black handle bowie with swaz roundel
Heinr. Boker & Co. Solingen NR Motto
Transitional 7/75 Motto ric 1937
Transitional 7/75 nM ric
Boker black bakelite bowie with bronze swaz in grip
Christians Solingen GG NR Motto
GG NR Motto solid blue Diamond
Christians with an HJ boy etched into blade
Ewald Cleff RZM only 7/93 nM
Carl Eickhorn small double oval arms up factory wooden grips GG NR M
Pre 32 motto no �Carl Eickhorn� squirrel only small brass rivets with cutouts
Pre 32 motto �no Carl Eickhorn� squirrel only large brass rivets covering cutouts
Small double oval arms up GG NR Motto
Small double oval arms out GG NR Motto
Transitional 7/66 Motto ric 1937
Transitional 7/66 ric nM no date
Transitional 7/66 ric nM 1938 *need trans 38 w /M*
Transitional 7/66 ric nM 1939 engraved pommel
Transitional 7/66 ric nM 1939
Transitional 7/66 ric nM 1940
Transitional 7/66 ric nM 1941 mint
Transitional 7/66 1942 (head over shoulder) near mint
RZM M7/66 Motto
C. Fred. Ern Solingen Wald ric nM
�ERN Solingen� obverse w/ reverse crown on top of sword nM
Arthur Evertz- �AES� trans 7/85 nM ric
�Arthur Evertz� Solingen trans 7/85 nM ric
Carl Evertz nM ric
G. Felix Solingen Gloriawerk GG Motto NR *need regular no GG
Trans m7/28 Ric Motto
�Gloria� in acid etch script on obverse Ric nM
Franz Frenzel RZM only nM 7/116
Ed. Gembrough RZM only nM m7/8
Emil Gierling trans �Gierling� m7/46 Motto
�E. Gierling� Solingen trans Motto
Gerb. Grafrath trans Motto 7/46 brass and chrome 1936
Trans Motto 7/46 steel and nickel 1936
Grawiso Solingen GG Motto NR
Ludwig Groten Solingen GG Motto NR
Joseph Hack RZM only 7/103
Herman Hann Solingen Wald GG Motto NR
Carl Halbach Solingen GG Motto NR
Carl Halbach Solingen Motto ric
Trans 7/23 nM 1938
Wilhelm Halbach (Christmas tree) GG Motto NR tree alone
Ric trans Motto double oval m7/35
Ric trans Motto tree straight up
Ric nM tree striaght up
Ric nM strr on side
Gottlieb Hammesfahr Solingen Foche GG Motto NR
Hammesfahr, Gottlieb swimmer GG Motto NR
RZM m7/67 1942
Hartkoph & Co. GG Motto NR early sloping head
Trans Motto 1936 sloping head 7/40
Trans Motto 1937 square head GG Motto 7/40
Trans Motto 1937 different head 7/40
Trans Motto 1938 different head 7/40
Carl Heidelberg Solingen GG Motto NR
Trans m7/65 38 nM ric
F & A Helbig RZM only 7/73 (2 examples)
J. A. Henckels Solingen Swillingswerk GG Motto NR
Transitional Motto Ric 7/10 1936
Transitional Motto Ric 7/10 no date heavy w brass rivets
Transitional nM Ric 7/10 1939
C. Jul Herbertz Ric nM �distributor
Herbertz & Meyer Solingen-Gr. GG Motto NR
Herder & Engles Solingen Ohligs GG Motto NR personalized �WK�
Fried. Herder RZM only 7/49
Rich. Abr. Herder Solingen GG Motto NR
Transitional 38 7/18
Transitional 38 7/18 differs from above
Transitional 39 7/18
Transitional 40 7/18 large 40
Transitional 40 7/18 small 40
Transitional 41 7/18
Salesman Sample with Herder in a roundel on grip
Robert Herder (windmill only) GG Motto NR mint
Robert Herder (windmill & �Robert Herder�) Solingen ric nM
Robert Herder (windmill & Robert Herder) Solingen GG NR nM
F. W. Holler Solingen GG Motto NR company name only in script Mint
Name only in block letters Motto 1936
GG marked block letters nM
Transitional nM thermometer 7/33
Transitional nM thermometer differs 7/33
E. & F. Horster Solingen GG Motto NR
Transitional Motto ric 7/36
Transitional Motto ric 7/36 plexiglass grips w/period pics of girlfriend/soldier
Eaglehead
Justinus Solingen Motto NR
C. Rud. Jacobs RZM only m7/35 nM
Jacobs & Co. Solingen Gr. nM
Karl. Robt Kaldenbach RZM Only 7/72
Robt. Klaas GG Motto NR very early
GG Motto different GG mark NR
Transitional extremely deep motto ric 7/37 1936
Robt Klaas factory bowie blade (diamond moves)
44. Klitterman & Moog gmbh Hann/Solingen GG nM ric
transitional nM 7/29 1939
transitional nM 7/29 1940
transitional nM 7/29 1941
45. Knect-K & Co. Solingen GG Motto NR
Transitional motto 7/11
Transitional Motto ric 1936
Transitional nM 7/11 1939
Transitional nM 7/11 1941
46. Fred. D. v Kohlen GG Motto NR
47. Gust. Koller Solingen GG Motto NR (have 2 1 average)
48. Hachf. Koller RZM only 7/60
49. Hugo Koller Solingen GG Motto NR small bird few lines
Hugo Koller Solingen GG Motto NR large bird many lines
50. Herm. Konejung AG Solingen GG Motto NR
Transitional m7/7 motto
51. Carl Julius Krebbs transitional crown over �K� on front with 7/5 on reverse
52. H & F. Lauterjung W Solingen transitional motto 7/6
transitional nM 7/6
53. Carl & Robt. Linder-Weyer-Solingen GG Motto NR
C & R Linder transitional Motto 7/15
Louper (flamme) GG Motto NR
Same brass big head rivets
P. D. Lunchloss RZM only 7/14
P. Lungstrasse Solingen-Ohligs GG Motto NR
C. Lutters & Co. Solingen GG Motto NR
Transitional Motto 7/59
Transitional nM 7/59
Gerb. Lutzenkirchen Solingen GG Motto knife & anvil
GG Motto knife and anvil gg mark different
Lux Solingen GG Motto NR
GG NR Motto different fox
Early made into a thigh knife w/aircraft aluminum
60. Ernest Mandewirth Solingen GG Motto NR
GG Motto NR different GG mark
61. Carl Aug. Meis Gmbh Solingen Mercheid Motto (CAM)
August Merten Wwe Solingen-Grafrath Motto
Rob. Muller Mercheid-Solingen GG Motto NR
Transitional motto large letters 7/32
Transitional motto small letters
Pack --E P &S motto ricasso anodized scabbard
Early no ric motto diamond on both grips
Transitional motto 1937 no rzm #
Eaglehead spanner ricasso
Franz Pils & Sohne RZM only 7/102
F. Plucker Jr. Solingen GG Motto NR
Transitional motto 7/62
Plumacher Sohne RZM only 7/83
Puma Solingen GG Motto NR
Transitional Motto 1937 *need 1937 ours average
Transitional 1938 nM
Transitional 1939 GG marked
K. Ritter Solingen GG Motto NR
K. Ritter Solingen Motto NR
Kuno Ritter Solingen-Graefrath GG Motto NR
Transitional Kuno Ritter Solingen Motto ric 7/3
C. D. Schaaf Solingen GG Motto NR small head
C. D. Schaaf Solingen Motto NR large head
Transitional Motto short pipe 7/56 no date
Transitional Motto short pipe 1937
Transitional Motto long pipe 1938
Carl Schmidt Sohn Solingen Motto NR
Carl Schmidt transitional nM 7/84 1939
Fred. Aug. Schmidtz Solingen GG Motto NR
Hermann Schneider Solingen Motto NR
A. Shuttlehofer Solingen Wald GG Motto NR
A Shuttlehofer Solingen Wald GG Motto NR - with crossed ponies
Transitional (A Schuttlehofer) & m7/13 Motto ric
RZM only Motto
Asso Solingen GG Motto NR
Paul Seilheimer Solingen _PS Solingen Motto NR mint priced at 3 marks w/ bag
PS NR nM
Dog trademark Motto ric
SMF Solingen GG Motto NR SMF also stamped on scabbard
C. Gustov Spitzer GG Motto NR
Franz Steinhoff Solingen-Wald GG Motto NR
Transitional 1939 no �M� in RZM-�just RZ� and large �39�
79. Tiger Solingen GG Motto NR small tiger many stripes
Tiger Solingen GG Motto NR large tiger with few stripes
Transitional Motto Large tiger few stripes 7/68 1936
Tiglewerk Reimbreg Schl ric nM
Transitional nM 7/81
Transitional nM 7/81 1939
Emil Voos Solingen GG Motto NR
EV&S Solingen GG Motto NR
Gust. Voos (fox head only) Solingen GG Motto NR
Fox head only head differs
Wilh. Wagner Solingen Mercheid Motto NR
Early no Motto
Transitional Motto ric 7/25
84. Weilputz,Thomas Solingen-Hohscheid m7/109 RZM Only
Wilh. Weltersbach Solingen GG Motto NR
Transitional Motto m7/22
Max Weyersberg Solingen GG Motto NR
WMW Waffen Sword through WMW GG Motto NR
Paul Weyersberg Transitional Motto Ric rzm obverse motto reverse
M7/43
M7/43 motto on reverse rzm on obverse
Reih. Weyersberg Solingen GG Motto NR
Anton Wingen Jr. Motto NR
Transitional Motto 7/51
Arthur Wingen (Chromolit) CH GG Motto NR
Ch Solingen Motto ric
WKC Waffenfabrick G.M.B.H. Solingen-Wald Motto Ric
Transitional Motto 1936
Transitional Motto 1937
Transitional Motto 1938
W. Wllms Solingen ric nM
Carl Wusthof Gladiatorwork GG Motto NR
Transitional nM 7/112
Ed Wusthof Solingen GG Motto NR
Early GG Motto NR different GG
Transitional GG nM 1939
Transitional GG nM 1940
Transitional GG nM 1941
95. Zeiter �Wein transitional 7/104 nM
RZM m7/1+ unknown
RZM only early heavy knife never had m7/#

Questionable:
Rhino Probably a Koller but unknown at this time
Rehwappen



RZM only examples (own no early maker mark) listed above (total 13)

1. Ed. Gembrough 8
2. PD Lunchloss 14
3. C. Rudolph Jacobs 35
4.Freid. Herder 49
5. Hachf. Koller 60
6. Karl. Robt. Kaldenback 72
7.F & A Helbig 73
8. Plumacher 83
9. Ewald Cleff 93
10.Frans Pils & Sohne 102
11.Joesph Hack 103
12.Weilputz,Thomas 109
13.Franz Frenzel 116


RZM ONLY WITH MOTTO (Total 24 knives 20 makers, 2 unmarked)

1. No RZM mark motto obverse
No RZM mark motto reverse
M7/2 Voos 1938 all stamped in ricasso
M7/2 Voos 1938 RZMed on blade (print type) 1938
M7/2 Voos no ricasso (the only RZMed NR motto I have ever seen)
4. M7/5 Krebs
5. M7/8 Gembrough
M7/8 1935 (2nd no ricasso rzm motto I have seen & I have both)
6. M7/13 Shuttlehofer
7. M7/14 P. D. Lunchloss
8. M7/27 Puma
9. M7/33 FW Holler
10 M.7/36 E & F Horster
11. M7/38 Paul Seilheimer
12. M7/43 Paul Weyersberg
m7/43 Motto on reverse, rzm on obverse
13. M7/46 Emil Gierling
14. M7/49 Friedrich Herder
15. M7/51 Anton Wingen (most common)
16. M7/60 Hachf. Koller
17. M7/66 Eickhorn
18. M7/72 Karl Robert Kaldenback
19. M7/102 Franz Pils & Sohne
20. M7/109 Weilputz, Thomas Solingen-Hohscheid


RZM KNIVES; total 45 makers identified 2 unknown total 47

RZM ONLY Marking early heavy knife with no number (never had one)
1 Christians 1938
1 Christians 1939
1+ Unknown
2 Voos 1938
2 Voos 1940 swaz on scabbard
3 Kuno Ritter White Diamond
3 Kuno Ritter MINT
6. 5 Carl J. Krebs
7. 8 Ed Gembruch
9. 9 SMF rough
9 SMF, excellent one
9 SMF 1939
10. 10 Henckels
11. 11 Knect 1942 mint plastic hanger
12. 12 Max Weyersberg 1940
12 Max Weyersberg 1941
12 Max Weyersberg 1942 personalized on spine
13. 13 Shuttlehoffer most common
14. 14 PD Lunchechloss 1939
14 PD Lunechechloss 1940
15. 25 Wilh. Wagner
16. 27 Lauterjung 1940
17. 28 G. Felix 1941
18. 31 Aug Mertern
17. 33 F W Holler
18. 34 C. Rudolph Jacobs
19. 36 E & F Horster stag
20. 37 Klaas 1938
21. 38 Paul Seilhamer
22. 42 WKC 1942
23. 43 Paul Weyersberg
24. 45 Karl Bocker
25. 46 Emil Gierling motto
26. 49 Fried. Herder 1939 with spanners and screws
27. 51 Anton Wingen
28. 52 Herbertz & Meurer mint tagged
29. 56 CD Schaaf 1940
56 CD Schaaf 1941
30. 60 Nachf. Koller rough
31. 62 Plucker 1944 dated presentation
Plucker Triumph on strap snap
Plucker 1940 totally gray with brass rivets
32. 65 Heidelberg, Carl rough
33. 66 Eickhorn
66 Eickhorn 1942 over the shoulder squirrel
34. 67 Hammshefer, Gottlieb 1942
35. 68 Tiger (Lauterjung)
36. 72 Karl Robert Kaldenbach
Karl Robert Kaldenbach very large 1940 on obverse ricasso
37. 73 F & A Helbig 38. 80 C. Gustav Spitzer 39 very large
80 C. Gustov Spitzer 39 very small
39. 83 Plumacher
40. 85 Arthur Evertz stag
41. 93 Elwald Cleff
42. 94 Gerb Bell
43. 102 Franz Pils & Sohne motto
44. 103 Joseph Hack 38
45. 109 Weilputz,Thomas Solingen_Hohscheid
44. 112 Carl Wustoff near mint if not mint
46. 116 Franz Frenzel
47. 118 Jacobs & Co. 41
Jacobs & CO. original leather protective covering on scabbard

Maker Mark with different RZM Mark; 3 Examples

Boker: early maker mark with RZM M7/36�E & F Horster
E & F Horster early mark with RZM M7/37 Klaas
E&F Horster with rzm m7/37 Klass

Personalized HJs; total 33
Gottlieb Hamesfahr ric nM � Kurt Schronce� on scabbard
Herman Konejung ric M �W. Lohmann� on ric
Puma NS knife trans ric �Horbach� on ric
E & F Horster �Gunter Weck� acid etch on blade
Herbertz & Meurer rzm (52) �Heinz Steniker� acid etch on blade
Grafrath trans 36 �H. Hampe� on pommel end
Hartkoph trans �1 Seiger Wehrfun Kamp 1940�
Herbertz & Meurer rzm (52) �Julius Heyder 1944� engraved blade
Henckels rzm (10) 1939 �Adolf Wagner� acid etch blade
F. Plucker trans �Ehrenprets RBHN 1937�
Gottlieb Hammesfahr early �W. Sch.� On pommel end
Robert Herder (windmill only) �K Belper� on spine
Klass distributor marked �HUMMEL� on spine *gone*
Hartfoph �Helmut Schnredet�
Anton Wingen early �P Shcunk�
Hartkoph trans 38 �NG� on pomel end
Puma rzm 1941 �Lothar Ranglack� acid etch blade
Gurtav Felix �Gloria� acid etch script obverse blade
Emil Voos �Helmuth Beifuss�
Tiger trans �Matthes� engraved on pommel
SMF early �HHW� intertwined H on H on W
Jacobs & Co rzm (118) �Hans Pfeffer Schonogen� spine w/letter f/owner
Anton Wingern trans 38 �G. Engle�
Seilheimer rmx (38) �Aufbauschule�
Christians �Rolf Roth 20 IV 43�
Seilheimer rzm (38) �H Yusi� ? acid etch
Gerb Bell rough �Willi Busch� pommel end
Schuttlehoffer rzm (13) stag �Werewolf� acid etch ricasso
Hartfoph 1940 �Leben und ---� acid etch kids writing
Henckels trans 1936 dist marked �Jean Hummel� *gone*
Gottlieb Hammesfahr �Rattich� on spine at pommel end
M7/5 Krebbs H. K. Schutte on pommel end
Christians Motto and HJ Member acid etched on back

ODD KINVES
Christians totally dark blue diamond
WKC Marine HJ nM blue and white diamond (lighter than Lutters)
C. Lutters Marine HJ Motto dark blue (all blue) diamond like # 1
WKC with SS motto and presentation to SS officer for judging sports
Cut down Bayo dual fullers early dark red diamond mint
Cut down bayo like #5 but used hard
Early arms out Eickhorn with medical tape address Cardell SS (staff sgr) 31190412 Btry A 102 FA Bn APO 26
Anton Wingen with runic letters acid etched on blade
Puma trans 1937 Motto front grip wood �Langlau Germany 1945� painted on grip and troop 350 in paint on scabbard
Boot knife with HJ diamond
Eaglehead w/stationary eye motto and no maker
Eaglehead EP&S spanners
Eaglehead Anton Wingen Spanners
Rich Abr. Herder stag plastic scabbard straps �TRUE MINT�
Eaglehead -E & F Horster
Eaglehead EP&S motto ricasso anodized scabbard no spanners
EP&S no ricasso spanners
EP&S motto GG marked spanners

DAMASCUS HJ
E & F HORSTER SCHLOSSBERG COMMEMORATIVE

Bayonets
Carl Julius Krebbs
WKC
E. Pack
Gustav Spitzer
No Maker �sharpened

HJ HONOR BAYONETS
HJ Motto engraved pommel no maker
HJ Motto engraved pommel Anton Wingen
Ss Motto engraved pommel Carl Wustoff
SS Motto engraved pommel Anton Wingen both HJ diamond and SS roundell

Bowie blade HJs
Klaas
Hartkopf
** need a WKC**

DJ knives
Othollo
�K�
unmarked
unmarked with diamond on scabbard
unmarked with diamond in grip

WOW! Thanks Lance.
Is the RusLan Rarities List to be next?
-Wagner-

BTT great list!

Nice list. I wish I had started collecting these 20 years ago.

Russ & Lance,

Thanks for posting this list, it helps with those of us who like to obsess over maker marks and variations. This list must be the product of many years of research, bravo.

Terry,

Me too!

I too, echo the sentiments of the fellow collectors. I refer to your list often, and regard it as a major tool and asset to HJ collectors - cheers!

Regards

Russell

FANTASTIC LIST!!!
THANKS LANCE!!!!!
OK, Not to sound ungreatfull, but are there any plans to make a rarity scale for these HJ makers???
Just curious...
Johnny