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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Odal, welcome to the forum..That is just stunning! Beautiful! That's one of the best hand made rings I've seen...
What kind of work did he do before the war?
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I have seen many rings on the forum , but never a ring made in Russian imprisonment. The front picture and the cloverleaves show an optimistic and positive vieuw , inspite of being a prisonner there. Also the date is interesting, normally "war-rings" end in 1945; this one in 1948. Cheers, Benten
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Hallo
my grandfather w�orked before war a "holzbildhauer" (I don�t know your word). He made statues and ornament from wood. The sign on the ring is the sign of our family. a farmer with corn in his hands. The letters "HK" on top is the name of my grandfather, Hermann Kn�dler, the "PR" at the bottom means "Paula Reim" (Name of my grandmother). Right side: "S, T, U" means "Suse, Traude, Ursula" - Names of the Daughters Left side: 1931 - Date the married 1948 - Year when the ring was made in camp number 17 "moltow"/Russia He was the untill 11. or 19. march 1949
Greetings - an sorry for my english
Odal / Germany
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Now you tell the family story to the ring.....The interesting technique on the ring is more of a woodcarver indeed , the front is worked out deeply ( a bit 3D ). I mean this very positive. It's not an engraving on a flat field. As you certainly know Germany is famous for its woodcraft for example in the medioval churches; altar retables. Does the figure represent some one ( from a medioval story ) ? What hold he in his hands? I presume this beautiful ring is of an big value for you.
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Hi all 2 benten i dont understant : is you grandfather was in captivity after war or no ? what he doing in russia ? ring very beautiful
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great ring very well made thanks for showing it. E
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quote: my grandfather w�orked before war a "holzbildhauer" (I don�t know your word). He made statues and ornament from wood. The sign on the ring is the sign of our family. a farmer with corn in his hands. The letters "HK" on top is the name of my grandfather, Hermann Kn�dler, the "PR" at the bottom means "Paula Reim" (Name of my grandmother). Right side: "S, T, U" means "Suse, Traude, Ursula" - Names of the Daughters Left side: 1931 - Date the married 1948 - Year when the ring was made in camp number 17 "moltow"/Russia He was the untill 11. or 19. march 1949
What an excellent story!!,,and what a talented man! It was a long war for him,,glad he survived.That ring would be the star of anyones collection! Hopefully it will remain in your family for many generations. Thanks for sharing it with us.., G. *
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Hi Evgeniy, the ring belongs to Odal. Benten
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sorry for mistake but quastion is actuality
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to Evgeniy
my grandfather was prisoner after war untill 1949. during war he belongs to the 260. Infantrie Division.
Greetings
Odal
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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odal, Your Grandfather had talent and it must have been difficult for him depending on the tools they let him use. Did he make others for the guards? Thanks for showing some of your family history.
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