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Inside of the crossguards, marked with the horseshoe S marking. Notice the guards have been bent by the stamping impact of P53
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Received my copy today. Already read till the end. Thank you Ron! Good job! Highly recommended reference book to all TR daggers collectors. With warm wishes from Russian collectors, Andrey aka Sokol
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Thanks for the kind words. Since the end of February, the book as done very well and all the good comments are so nice after so many years of work. This work, compared to my other books, is doing very well and initial sales are super. Also, the number of people that have commented on the book is astounding and all positive. Finally, some good is coming from the time invested. Also, I have received some new material that I wish I had when I finished the book. One item is a photoalbum of over 300 pictures from NPEA Ballenstedt in the first two years (1934 and 1935) with all the leaders. It would have been super to use in the book, even though I already had one from that school. To see Rust, SS Gen. Loeper, Freiburg, Anstaltleiter Hiller, Lutze and the others at school functions is unusual. There are some great shots of the early HJ Knife with the engraved pommel that can be identified by the crossguard shape. I hope to use these in an HJ Knife book later. Ron Weinand Weinand Militaria
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Ron, Would you mind posting a few photos, or email me some?  Thanks, John
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Here's the latest find for me, Oranienstein school marked...
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This dagger comes from a very good source and shows that the first issues at Oranienstein were numbered with larger numbers than those in evidently the second issue (smaller numbers in the same style in my new book). I have always believed that the first 100 daggers for each school was initially different from those of later source and probably production. They are marked by each school in a similar manner, but difference in the size of the number dies used. So much to learn and so little time. We must get this information before those daggers from the veteran sources are all gone. JMO, Ron Weinand Weinand Militaria
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When I was in Graz (Austria) couple of weeks ago, I took pictures of the same Napola school that is pictured in Ron's book on page 146. 
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Very Cool Patrice, sort of like those After the War magazines showing before and after shots. It's a beautiful building, I'm glad it survived the war. Thanks for sharing, John
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Here's a new addition to the collection from Wein-Theresianum. I think this is only the second dagger known from this school. Notice the late graduation date. Tang is unmarked.
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School number is stamped in
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The graduation for this school is routered in...
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John: Congrats on a very rare school piece. Although I've moved on to other things, I miss my NPEA collection the most. It's up to you now to carry the torch.
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Thanks Don. I understand, as I once had over 120 different SA early maker marked daggers and sold all but a couple dozen...miss those. I also wish I had a bigger dagger budget to spend on your collection when it went up for sale.
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John, that's a rare one for sure!  Congrats! Are the crossguards aluminum? Regards, Leipzig
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Roger, the cross guards are aluminum. It appears they make have had a coat of lacquer possibly at one time? At least, it looks like that around the graduation engraving.
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Up to now there are four (including the one of v.) WT daggers known to me. All absolutely ident only differing in hte year 1942 or 1943. If I have time I will photograph my own exemplare. Regards,
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Good job John. Where are the daggers for the other Wien schools??? Ron Weinand
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This is one of the four I am aware of. I am in contact with the owner. Regards,
wotan, gd.c-b#105
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Here is my Wien NPEA with WT 47
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Very, very nice. Do you have a picture of the maker mark, and the back of the frog? Thanks, John
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John here are pictures of the maker mark and backside of the dagger
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Thanks for the additional pictures. It is interesting the maker mark is the earliest Type 1, usually associated with nickel-silver crossguards. Also, the WT 33 example and the WT 50 example have the Type 2 later maker mark.
I wonder if Ron Weinand could comment here on this issue? He did say sometimes the blades were mixed up at the time of the graduation engravings, as they didn't care about the blade markings...as long as the dagger fit together.
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One other thing may help, if you don't mind taking it apart. Is the tang marked with the double ended arrow marking as in Ron's book?
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quote: One other thing may help, if you don't mind taking it apart. Is the tang marked with the double ended arrow marking as in Ron's book?
Yes the tang marked are with double ended arrow and the crossguards are aluminium with St mark.
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Interesting mystery here. Your dagger appears to be all original, the dagger blade is real, no doubt. But the blade was made earlier than the school was opened, and that blade is not associated with aluminum crossguards. I checked mine, and the Aluminum top cross guard is internally marked E W and the bottom one just has the large dot.
It is cool to see how the school stampings were all made with the same dies, technique, etc.
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Here's an example of knowing what the stampings of a particular NPEA school looks like can weed out many fakes...
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John,
Your stable of NPEAs never fail to impress (or stop growing!). It helps a lot with this type of dagger to have color shots up close like this. In conjunction with Ron's book, I'm thinking there are less mistakes made with this dangerous dagger type. Thanks for posting these shots.
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