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Gaspare #306780 03/29/2015 10:26 PM
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Hi Gaspare,
I cannot upload pictures..

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here the pics....uploaded for Joda....
for me a nice period one in very good condition:

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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
odal #313428 11/30/2015 05:38 PM
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New one for me.
Small size, about 18 mm Diameter. Silver

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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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Nice one! Will post pix of one I found later today

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My collection

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black120878 #317505 03/30/2016 09:37 PM
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Very interesting cartouche- swas in top left skull on bottom right- not sure I've seen this pattern before-- looks like a ladies ring?

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First one of this pattern i have seen.
Looks real interesting. 2-piece-construction.
Is there a story to this ring?
Is this a "925" content mark?

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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
odal #317521 03/31/2016 01:28 PM
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the history of the ring do not know. acquired in a collection.
Yes, the stamp on it "925". hope tell me about the ring

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black120878 #317522 03/31/2016 01:48 PM
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Based on 925 stamp and fact that cartouche is pretty blurry I would say it is cast postwar/modern ring. Sorry.


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black120878 #317523 03/31/2016 02:01 PM
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Hi I think a couple of our members have a ww pattern that contains a diagonal script and a small skull in one of the corners- it might be on our ww thread. I'm assuming you are familiar with the Westwall and its construction defense etc- this was the point of the commemorative service rings- there were female rad members who have rings of their service too- I'm guessing this is one of them. There is sometimes a date and it usually says 1939/1940 obviously corresponding to the service and what was going with it at the time- we in the west know it as the old Siegfried line- and it may have originated from the "original" ww rings which were made by (I imagine somewhat bored) servicemen using bits of wire to make spiral rings from it. I have one and IMHO it's a must have piece for any ww ring collector. The skull is just an omnipresent symbol of loyalty until death, defense until death, etc. it's been around for a very long time but really came into fashion again in the 20s and 30s due to the use by the freikorps soldiers and of course the ss. I think it was considered patriotic trendy and kind of cool (these were usually young men, if u remember). The pyramids on the cartouche are the dragons teeth that are still there reinforced concrete tank barricades. Patton said when he saw it that built up defensive fortifications are testaments to mans stupidity. Always loved that quote. Regards Mike

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Originally Posted By: hapur
Based on 925 stamp and fact that cartouche is pretty blurry I would say it is cast postwar/modern ring. Sorry.


Yes, my opinion too.
But a interesting one.


�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
odal #317650 04/05/2016 08:14 PM
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black120878 #317664 04/06/2016 06:06 AM
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That amber stone is a killer!
Congrats!

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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
odal #317670 04/06/2016 11:08 AM
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I've seen a few of these now beginning with the "amethyst"- are these cut glass, I presume? (I mean I can't imagine these were 10 carat pieces of amethyst or ruby or Baltic Amber)- is there one made of clear glass?

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I've only seen colored glass, transparent did not come across


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Originally Posted By: Byzanti
I've seen a few of these now beginning with the "amethyst"- are these cut glass, I presume? (I mean I can't imagine these were 10 carat pieces of amethyst or ruby or Baltic Amber)- is there one made of clear glass?


Usually pressed coloured glas.
I know only one Westwall pattern the gem is mady from Onyx.
Look here...same in green grin


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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
odal #318354 05/10/2016 07:14 PM
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Went through all this thread and have found a lot of WEST WALL patterns but I have not noticed this one. As far as I know this is also WEST WALL ring (know it after Beaux book). Stright me if I'm wrong. Soon will post wire West Wall absent here too.

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Gottlieb #318355 05/10/2016 07:24 PM
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And wire WEST WALL ring unexisting here...

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Gottlieb #318356 05/10/2016 10:16 PM
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Hi,
this ring seems rather rare. It could be certainly a westwall-wire-ring, if it is not a fake. Uncommon but very interesting. Thanks for posting.

The idea was evidently the doubling of the well known ring type with only one twisted plate standing upright.

Gerd

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Nice pair of rings gottlieb- first one is very nice and the second is really interesting- I've only the "spiral" variety, but I know a couple other members here have variations on the spiral theme that are rather unique- like this one... Thank u for sharing! (Odal- I know u have some beauties!!!)

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2 real nice rings Piotr and the first is a rather hard to get ring.
Part of a row of this rings with different plates.
This plate was sold in period as ring for "Artillerie".
If i remember right Gerd has the version for "Infanterie" (helmet/2 rifles). wink
There are adverts for.

Great catch.
Congrats.


�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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How bout I add something to an existing thread for once! lol! Ok just saw this on German eBay and G suggested I post this and ask about hallmark... I also thought it was interesting looks almost like a diamond in the middle.., what does it say? (In my imagination I feel like it's an OLC overhoff!!) lol! Ok any thoughts guys??

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yes looks interesting.
Can't really tell if a production ring,,or a blank that's been engraved[?]
Yeah, wish we could see it all better especially that hallmark!
Anyone have the same ring??

Gaspare #319632 06/25/2016 04:05 AM
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and this is what I have bought yesterday...

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Gottlieb #319634 06/25/2016 04:22 AM
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Wow that's beautiful man

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Aahh, all the good rings are going to Poland! wink

The is a very hard to find WW pattern especially in that condition! Congrats! good catch!

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Originally Posted By: Gottlieb
and this is what I have bought yesterday...

Is this two piece construction? Can we see inside?


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hapur #319694 06/26/2016 09:05 AM
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Should be 2 piece, plate hold by a rivet.
A killer!


�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
odal #319700 06/26/2016 01:31 PM
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When I receive it will post better pictures. Goetz have seen pics of this ring and for sure it is two piece construction. I can not see the rivet on the back picture but I'm sure this one is legit.

Gottlieb #319726 06/27/2016 08:51 AM
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Somewhere her a nice pics of this rivet made patterns.
On some rings the rivet on the backsite is covered with solder and plated and so not or nearly not visible.


�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
odal #319879 07/01/2016 07:32 PM
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OK here it is. In my opinion two piece constuction but not riveted. I have seen it on similar skull head rings where some of were riveted and other soldered. Anyway I have no doubts about this ring. Stays with me for a long time :-)

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Gottlieb #319892 07/01/2016 11:01 PM
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I would have never guessed soldered. Regardless, killer ring Piotr! Congrats!

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Piotr.,, Do a search here on the 'Rivet skull ring'[or similar].. And, you'll see many you can not see the rivet!

- you have the ring in hand,,IF your looking closely in/at that cartouche you should be able to see if 2 pieces..

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New in my collection

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black120878 #320171 07/14/2016 02:02 PM
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Wow! What is the spade ring second from left in the second row down? Is it early/FAD? And also the skull next to it- haven't seen that in a ww collection- if u have any more pix of those love to see them! Thank u for sharing!

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All this WestWall ring, I will expose a photo from a ring with a shovel largely later


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black120878 #320193 07/15/2016 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted By: black120878
All this WestWall ring, I will expose a photo from a ring with a shovel largely later


Impressive little Westwall ring collection.
Congrats!

The one with the shovel is a well known rarer pattern.

It seems you have some real nice rings there. Some of them i have seen on eBay the last months/year.

But 2 of them i real don`t like.
Sorry!
The one with the skull byz talked from.
I have seen it the last years on this italian Website.
An the one in the 3. row, second from right (swas and skull).


�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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yes the square with the skull and swastika I'd say 4th reich..

And that red box[?] A ring box? ,,what do you keep in it!?

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The one with the shovel

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