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"Even if such objects cannot change the soul of man, at least they give him an identity." - Heinrich Himmler
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Thanks Joe, seems to be, took me years to find one. The thread is dropping down the page again, although looking at the date it was started I guess we will lose it soon..... Here are two of the three variants of the M.S. Wilhelm Gustloff badges, the third has the KdF symbol on the flag, still looking for that one. The reverses are unmarked. Cheers Don
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Don & Joe,
Thanks for the comments. Sounds good - I'll start a RADwJ [Reichsarbeitsdienst fur den Weiblichen Jugend] thread when I get some more photos sized down to 100k.
When I was buying these, I was purchasing them all, not specific makers. The rarest is the second pattern.
I'll also list the makers that I've encountered.
I've also got RADwJ photo IDs. Matching photo ID/brooch combos, etc. I'll show some of those as well. I'll try to choose the attractive females :^).
You've got to be careful with these brooches, as certain patterns/grades are faked. I'll cover that also.
I also have a pile of NS-Frauenschaft and Frauenwerk pins for this thread. I'll photo a group.
On a commercial note, I have seven (7) RADwJ photo albums. I think I'll post some on the "For Sale" section of the site.
Keep an eye out for a new thread, Kevin
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Very impressive KevinS. These deserve a thread of their own, do you collect by maker as well or just grade?
Joe,
Thanks. Nothing more I'm afraid. There's a great book by Jill Stephenson called "The Nazi Organisation of Women" which goes into great detail about the bitter war between the Frauenschaft & the BDM over control of the "girls groups" (mainly between the ages 11 - 18, but younger as well). Girls groups had been formed from as early as the 1920's by the various NS related women's groups (inc the Deutscher Frauenorden) & it was strongly believed by the leaders of the NSF that "the girls belonged with the women" a direct challenge to the edict that "youth should be led by youth".
The NSF won an important victory in March 1935 when it was assigned sole responsibility for organising 6 - 10 year olds of both sexes in "childrens groups". Hitler himself decided that the NSF & not the Reichsjugendf�hrung (Baldur von Schirach's office) should assume this task.
However, unfortunately no mention is made of any insignia or badges in this section of the book, or how the "childrens groups" were organised......
Cheers Don
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Deutsches Frauenwerk pin with membership card. The reverse of the card has small frauenwerk dues stamps.
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KevinS., quite a collection. I do not run across these all that often. Only have two, a bronze and a silver? I think it's silver (silver plated obverse, grey/green reverse, both of the smooth plain edge varity. Grade eludes me at the moment. I checked my notes, Jungfuhrerin for the bronze. Sound correct?Thanks for sharing! If you do not mind can you give us a run down on the rank grades and what pattern was when? --dj--Joe
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National Socialist Frauenschaft 2nd pattern pins.
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National Socialist Frauenschaft 3rd pattern pins.
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Joe,
Oh, I guess I'm paranoid. Yes that was a great thread.
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I'd like to share my RADwJ (Female RAD) brooches.
From top: 1st, 2nd, 3rd pattern brooches in different grades.
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Frauenamt der DAF - Female DAF pins
Color piping is the typical political system. Yellow - Reich Red - Gau White - Kreis Blue - Ortsgruppe
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Good link Joe, I'd forgotten that thread.
Here's one not often seen......
Cheers Don
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Werkluftschutz, an organization I know next to nothing about. Interesting design to the pin. Factory air raid personnel? I do recall seeing in the past some different colored cloth emblems for the organization.
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While I had the vault open I dug out another. I don't think that I've posted this one before..... Apologies if so.
Rheinbahn badge
Not really sure what this one was used for, it could be just a good or long service badge.
However there was a strong affiliation between the Rheinbahn workers & the NSDAP. The canteen at D�sseldorf's central depot on Erkrather Strasse was converted into a Party meeting room, & this central depot became the point of departure for the First of May marches. So the badge could also be something to do with this.
In 1937 the �Working People�s Exhibition� was held in D�sseldorf to demonstrate the power of National Socialism to the rest of the world. The Rheinbahn operated a mini railway through the exhibition, the carriages were pulled by an express train locomotive on a scale of 1:5. A UFA newsreel provided detailed coverage of the exhibition and the visit by the Hermann Goering. The badge could just as easily have been for Rheinbahn personel who worked or help make the event a success, or maybe sold to members of the public at the exhibition.
Whatever it's intended use, it's a fine & rare badge.
The reverse is unmarked.
Cheers Don
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Why thank you Gentlemen. Although I'm not sure that I warrent one for simply for "showing off" my dainties here. However I certainly agree with Joe's nomination Thank you again Cheers Don
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DJ has nominated Don Scowen for the Great Thread Badge based on this thread and I agree.
Since DJ is a modest Moderator, I have nominated him after discussing it with Vern.
Congratulations to you both. Your threads and contibutions are appreciated.
Regards, Dave
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A choice item you've found there Joe, very nice.
Thanks for sharing it with us.
Cheers Don
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Don, what an intriguing badge. Unique color design and complexity, it has it all. I am keeping my eyes peeled for it's twin. --dj--Joe
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Thank you, Dave and Vern. I feel I am the least deserving of this consideration. I do appreciate it.
Don, your contributions far exceed any reward that could be bestowed. You have initiated and contributed to numerous threads with knowledge freely given.
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I wish we had a blushing icon as I could do with it now..... Thanks Joe it's much appreciated. Well I supposed I'd better dig something else out of the vault How about this a Werkluftschutz members pin, serialised to the rear. Cheers Don
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Yes Joe I've seen those as well. It's not an organisation that I know much about either. I'm hoping that it's covered in the new Luftschutz book that's just come out.
Cheers Don
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DRV, RADFAHRER German Bicycle association. --dj--Joe Obverse.
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I feel the small circles were intended as guide lines for a swing pin attachment. Has any one seen these with pin back as opposed to the stickpin examples?
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Well, I still do not have the book, did get to leaf through an example, probably best I do not have one, many that I would want. Thanks to Don for looking this up for me. REK - Reichsvereinigung ehemaliger Kriegsgefangener. (Reichs association of former POW's). --dj--Joe Thanks Don. Obverse.
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Yes I agree,these music pins are something nice to look at.You do have some nice ones yourself!!Like the honour pin some pages earlier. Nice meeting you on my watch You know the pin and me.....I followed you and DJ.....just a new name-if that only worked with faces that easy.I have seen something veeeeery nice from the Saar in this thread,Don.We need to talk Best D
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You are most welcome Joe.
A very nice pin, first time I've seen one as well. Perhaps not so many of the POW's joined the organisation.....
Cheers Don
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Thanks Joe, I must admit as soon as I saw them I thought "I have to have them". They were a good price too Cheers Don
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Thanks Don No TM on the back. The prongs are simular to what is on the back of the diamond that goes in the grip of the HJ knife. HJ diamond prongs are flatter than this one.
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Hello Terry,
It's post WWII and very nice! This is the first cased stickpin I've seen and is very worthwhile holding on to. I've got a mess o' these DJV units myself. They're among the best-made postwar pins, badges and such that I've seen.
If I get a chance I'll post some of the badges so that some of the guys can have a look.
Best regards!
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2nd. version of three styles. With all the former POW's I wonder that this pin is not more often seen. --dj--Joe Reverse. (Unmarked).
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Reverse marked for Poellath, you can sometimes find them unmarked as well.
Cheers Don
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Getting quiet again, time to raid the collection for another trinket.....
Following on from the KfdK badge posted 14 posts back, in June 1934 the KdfK was joined with the Reichsbund deutsche B�hne to form the NS Kulturgemeinde (NSKG). This organisation didn't last long either as in 1937 the KdF absorbed it.
There is supposed to be an enamel version as well, but so far I've never seen one.
Cheers Don
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Reverse is exactly the same as the one shown by Pete.
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TKissinger, It's the membership badge for the Deutsche Jugend in Slovakia. Looks nice, what's the back like? Joe, Nice badge. I do not recall ever seeing a pinback version of this pin, but I've always assumed as you that the circles are for this purpose. Until recently, I'd only seen this maker as well. However, a few months back Detlev had one by another for sale. Unfortunately I can make out who it is & I wasn't quick enough to get it Cheers Don
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Referring back to Wood's post on page 6 of this thread, here's a 25yr membership badge for the NS Deutscher Marinebund (NSDMB) with the Iron Cross in place. The perspective looks a little odd here as the badge wouldn't lay flat on the scanner due to the raised iron cross on the front Cheers Don
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