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To save this topic from dropping off the edge of the server:

Here is Pablo's original opening photo which I in my clumsiness cut off from the thread.

Touchy subject indeed.

SS style Collar tabs w Tresse

Promotion...

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Pablo,

An interesting SCHUMA tunic. And, as you point out, always a controversial one. Could we see closeups of the sleeve insignia and the shoulder boards and their method of attachment? Any markings inside?

Frankly, this is what I would expect to see in a SCHUMA tunic. A basic Ordnungspolizei tunic that has SCHUMA insignia. I can see where the late mouse grey Pol Litzen were removed from the collar and the SCHUMA collar tabs sewn on; and then "promoted" as you mention. I would like to see more.

George

I was unable to finish posting the rest of the Images yesterday.Here they are:

Sleeve Insignia

The tunic & hat show considerable field wear,which is to be expected.this was no walking out ensemble.

Detail of Shoulder Strap

Attachment method.Shows signs of having had the smaller Polizei straps at one time.

the straps have definetely been there a long time

Nice,even wear in all insignia.

Lining and field bandage pocket

Markings are very faint,but there

The Insides

More innards

Detail of Ostvolk medal ribbon on buttonhole.

Pablo,

Can we see a shot of the large number markings in the back of the lining?

George:
The numbers are not Cyrilic and hand applied, there is also something covered up on the left part of the front lining.You can see it(a longish dark mark)in the photo I posted before the "Ostvolk" ribbon Image....maybe a name.

Here's some photos of the hat

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Elongated Schuma Swastika

The Tunic and hat exhibit the same amount of field wear.They are also somewhat matching in size.The headgear is probably a recicled HJ cap,whereas the Ex-Polizei tunic has been retailored,and at one time had litzen and a chest(?)eagle.
It is an uncommon field and I would love to hear what other Forum Members have to say.

Pablo I like it, if you ever want to sell it I would be very interested.

Pablo,

I rather like your tunic as well. The cap is seemingly a DJ or HJ cap but this is certainly possible for a Schuma cap. I don't see any real red flags as these uniforms were in fact re-issued by the Polizei. I would expect to see either a well worn uniform or one that was not issued and sat in a warehouse. Period photographs show these troops in reworked police tunics with a variety of insignia. Some with collar tabs and shoulder boards and some without. Some with sleeve eagles and some without. These are very interesting and controversial uniforms and not for the stitch counter or the faint at heart.

I like it.

George

Hi Pablo,
Like George and Gary, I like your tunic very much. Man, your tunic is very rare as most Schuma members probably went to great lengths to discard their uniforms. To say these guys were "mean" is an understatement. As Tom W. would say "Scary"! I find it just amazing that tunic like this would surface after all of these years. Was it a vet. purchase?

Best,
Marcus

Thanks so much bill. I had the opportunity to visit Pablo years ago and handle that set. Its one of the few originals that's out there! Thanks again for saving it...,G.

excellent and undoubtedly rare; for the specialist among specialists! you can almost smell the "salt." fine post, thanks.