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Great photography Bill and thanks for the festiveness.

I just about flipped when I saw your panther.
The deco styling on it is too cool.
I never seen anything like it before.

You come up with great stuff.
Real eye candy.

Wow, I always loved Art Deco, but the Panther tops it all. Love it to bits.. even made it into my wallpaper on my PC. Is there any chance of a photo that would cover it all?

JAN

Bill,
That's great! You take awesome pictures and I wish I had your photog skills.

Gentlemen,

It's always a pleasure to share my small finds and observations with all of you. It's especially enjoyable seeing and discussing what our fellow members add to the thread, you guys have contributed so many first class porcelains - my profound thanks for that!

I look forward to all of your additions in the fast approaching New Year.

Jan - wish I had a bigger panther-file to give you but that's all there is ... how about a nice poison-arrow frog?

By the way, that is one awesome bayonet collection you have, all top quality. My favorite is the unit with the wood grip that's cut to simulate stag-horn, now that's artistry!

Merry Christmas friends!

Bill

liegendes Windspiel - Laying Italian Greyhound

Designed by Theodor Kärner, 1923, Model Number 13, for Rosenthal Kunstabteilung Werk, Bahnhof-Selb.

Starting in 1918 the energetic and tireless sculptor was employed as a freelance artist for Rosenthal, responsible for producing approximately 100 or more porcelain animal figures between the years 1923 and 1934. He then packed his bags and left to go to work for Himmler's Allach Porzellan factory.

Model 13 (initial production)

A sleek racing-dog at rest with its head turned to the rear, (his left) and mounted on an oval, lightly-decorated base. His left front leg is gently streched forward to the front while the right front leg is angled under the chest area. The rear legs are pulled in close and positioned beneath the form. The animal's tail wraps below the body from it's right to left and is cast seperately.

This kind of atheletic and refined study of the canine's body is characteristic of the artist's work, you can actually see and feel how fast this lithe pooch is. The head is thin and narrow with the ears also small and delicate for minimal wind resistance, all on a long flexible neck. The graceful, powerful curve of the spine and hind-quarters, the tightly-tucked stomach area, brilliant detail to the legs and paws are all evidence of the sculptor's powers of observation.

In Rosenthal's model-lists from Kunstabteilung Bahnhof-Selb, you will find another listing for a later, slightly smaller version of the Windspiel (Model 80) also produced by Professor Kärner. The difference is not only reflected in the overall size, there are a few other nuances, the most notable being the tail was cast directly into the animal's left hind-quarter as opposed to being a seperate piece as found on the original earlier sculpture.

The example pictured is marked with the 1929 Rosenthal Bavaria logo and incised, T.Kärner, and also has the model number, 80, impressed at the bottom. When I first saw the maker's mark for some reason I thought it was a 1935 date, further proof of my terrible eyesight - good thing I'll be getting new optics soon! The Rosenthal marking system can become quite tedious at times and it always pays to double-check, heh ..

This latest addition to my collection holds a very special meaning for me, I hope you'll enjoy it too ...

Happy New Year - calm seas and a prosperous voyage!

W. Warda Jr.

Has anyone any idae of this maker? It is stated to be by Kutschenreuter and has LHS on the base.
Looks beautiful but what period?
http://www.regimentals.co.uk/s...p?shoph=44907&phqu=1

Tristan,

The Hutschenreuther markings sound correct -
(LHS) Lorenz Hutschenreuther Selb.

I can only see the one photo that's directly linked, are there any more? Is there an artist's name or initials somewhere? What period does the seller say it's from?

There are quite a few logo variants to be found with the LHS marking, covering a good timespan.
I'd have to see a good clean image to be of any further help.

My first impression is early postwar but I can't be certain without seeing more details. Possibly by Granget?

Looks like a large impressive raptor, great pose.

Best regards!

Bill

Bill, there is only one photo and on the base there is said to be an image of a lion standing over 'LHS' with the makers name under the glaze...24 inche wing span and said to be 'TR period'...£875 asking price

T,

That's about $1200+ US right? I'd want to see his head and a few more shots for that kind of money, I wouldn't buy it going on just the one photograph, even from an aesthetic standpoint.

What I see in the photo looks very nice, the pose, the sculpture and the painting all tiptop, but I'd want to see the head and face,
too. That's the part that can "make-or-break"
a good raptor for me. There is a possibility it was photographed like that on purpose, no?

As for dating the piece, that should be of secondary importance considering there are so many slight variations in the markings. Very easy to make a mistake in this area.

If the painting of the head looks good and a proper, "no-questions" guarantee is given, I'd venture a look-see, it is a very impressive unit, no matter the time period.

Good hunting!

B~

Thanks, Bill.
It is a lovely piece, and I have had good associations with the dealer but I think I will probably keep my money for a future Allach piece.

Bill,
A fantastic piece and really something to look at and study. The amazing attention to detail is a joy on this guy, right down to the dew claw and stretched skin. Thanks for the look.

T,

I think that's a wise move, just keep plugging away at those fine Allach pieces!

Mikee,

Happy to share and glad you enjoyed it. You can even just see the teats on the belly area, too. Who could ask for more than that?

Got this from Santa at Christmas - you have to be extra good all year to get one of these ...

Best!

W~

Bill,

I noticed the teats right away, amazing set! Bill, you must be doing something right!

Bill

The exchanging of gifts at christmas is always a time I look forward to.

I just had to post this piece. Just in from Germany, a magnificent Bronze Rehbock by Fritz Diller. He stands 19" tall and is 15" long, a real heavy piece.
I hope you guys like him as much as I do.

Gary

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G,

You posted this just in the nick of time, I was beginning to have severe withdrawal symptoms ...

For those keeping score, Fritz Diller was another premier 20th-century German animal sculptor. He studied under and worked alongside many of the most recognized and respected Tierbildhauer (animal sculptors) of the day. Your beautiful new Rehbock bronze is another example of just how talented Herr Diller was. He was a prolific artist, having completed many, many works in various mediums to include porcelain, bronze, aluminum-alloys and countless other relief-castings in metal. I'd go so far as to say that Herr Diller kept himself as busy and productive as Master Kärner.

The patina and coloration of this particular sculpture is quite exquisite, the soft reddish-browns and golden highlights are as close to perfect as anyone could hope for. Someone took special care of this example and now again, it resides in trustworthy hands ...

One more quick thing ... Fritz had a son named Helmut who was also a noted animal artist, if you have a chance you might want to have a look at some of his work -
well worthwhile.

Thanks for sharing your latest catch with us, most enjoyable!

Bill

Fritz also had a keen interest in dogs, here's man's best friend with a mug that only a mother could love ...

W~

These are great dogs with a great temperament.
This is exactly how they look, ole Fritz is a superb sculptor.
I'd love to find one of these.

Gary

Gary,

Nice find and a fantastic piece of art work. What is there not to like about this piece, it's great!

Meine Herren,

It's been a good while since we've seen anything new here lately, hope everyone's been alright? Perhaps a new piece on the way, something good like that..?

Nothing much new here presently but I did spy this very nice, Meissen stoneware owl by Esser. Absolutely fantastic birds!

Best!

W~

HI Bill

Just taking breath!! Allach is so costly these days, but the upcoming HH auction has some nice pieces, and I am awaiting an Ebay purchase of a Lamb and a Rabbit so will post shortly.

Another amazing work of art.Very beautiful.
I love the facial expression,talons,and finish.
What is the approximate size?

BTW I'm still recovering from the shock of seeing your deco panther.

T,

Looking forward to your new additions.

Dean, This big fella is about 15-16 inches tall.
This'd be a great addition to anyone's porcelain collection.

I found anonther Deco-era panther on the net, this one also by Esser. This cat's a bit more round and plump but still very, very nice. You'd be hard-pressed to find a better looking cat than that first example but this one's a beauty, too.

Best!

B~

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That's a very nice piece, can you image these two puma's side by side, now that's something to aim for.

Thanks for posting this beautiful model

Gary

Bill,

Gosh! The owl is increditable. Thanks for keeping this thread a live. I feel a lot more comfortable over here and hope I'm still welcome.

Mikee,

Still welcome? ... are you kidding?
I always look forward to your comments and feedback with much gusto!! Your knowledge and keen insights are very much appreciated.

ha, I'm enjoying the fact that you guys are enjoying this as much as I am ...

... a little bird told me that we might be getting a good look at a lovely pair of Allach foxes in the not-too-distant
future ..??

Best!

Bilhelm

Gents,

Got this great postcard from a good collector friend in California, never saw another like it before and thought you'd enjoy it too.

Wehrmachtsausstellung in der Staatsgalerie München - vom 17. Dezember 1941 bis 15. Juni 1942. "Vom Musketier zum Feldmarschall."

Armed Forces Exhibit in Munich. "From Musketeer to Field Marshal."

A display case of historical German uniforms by
Nymphenburger Porzellanmanufaktur.

I've never seen any of these good size figurines for sale, have any of you seen them before, maybe if you follow Hermann Historica? I wonder who originally sculpted them? It'd also be great to see some good color photos of the painting details. I'll bet they're fairly good, eh?

Tristan or Gary, I know you boys check their stuff out, do these ring a bell by any chance?

Best!

B~

Bill

You rarely see anything other than Allach on Hermans site, I need to look back on a few more auctions to see what else they might have sold.
A super picture.

Gary

Bill...I haven't seen any of these fellows before, but are they Nymphenburg rather than Allach?
Allach did do some Historical soldier figures and this scan is from Ebay (A Zieten-Husar von 1756), apparantly a Karner piece, and very similar in style and finish to your guys.

G & T,

Thanks for your input guys.

I did some checking in the meanwhile and found a little more that I wanted to share...

T - yes, strictly Nymphenburg, the boys in that huge case. Bob Johnston had three figures for sale on his website some long time ago, but the listings are still there. I phoned to ask him if I could borrow his images for the thread and he graciously agreed. I chose three that we can all check out and draw our individual conclusions from...

Personally, I think the Allach Zeiten figure you just posted above is very much superior to any of the Nymphenburg examples we'll see. It looks as though Kärner literally poured his heart and soul into his Allach works, I think it's especially noticeable in his mounted figures and the large deer series, as well as many others. I mean Friederich der Grosse is simply profound!

Nevertheless, the Nymphenburg pieces are very, very good and nothing to sneeze at. They look to be anywhere from 11-14 inches tall or thereabouts? Nice detail, great decorative paint work and poses, though, compared to the Allach it seems to just miss the grade. That doesn't mean the right figure wouldn't spice up anyone's display, especially at a fair price!

Here for your perusal, three more of the "ancients..."

Best!

B~

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Well researched, Bill!
I agree that they do lack the detail of Allach figures.
Attached is a page from an Allach article in 'Militaria' showing very similar 17th Century soldiers.
The one on the left could be the brother of your first image!
Does your friend sell items...if so,could you give me your friend's web site.

Sorry, I should have added that they are, I think, by Richard Forster and not Karner.

Tristan,

Thanks for additional info, much appreciated.

That fellow on the left looks like a member of a Guard's regiment? I wouldn't mind that one standing in my room gathering dust!

Bob gets mixed reviews, some good some bad. If you know what you're looking at you shouldn't have any problems. He has some outstanding rare items and is very knowledgeable, too. He can be a bit outspoken at times but don't ever let that throw you ... if you don't pull his chain he'll treat you fair and square. A might expensive but you never know what you'll find there ..? I'd to look through several of the reference books he has.

Good hunting!

Bill

ps ... heh, almost forgot - http://germaniainternational.com

Thanks, Bill. Quite a site!

I think Bob's site is very well pesented and his write ups give you some great insight.He's always been a pleasure to talk and deal with.JMO

Dean,

I find Bob's site interesting and nicely presented, too ... lots of great eye-candy and good details. He knows his German history.

I was going through some old photo-files and found this fine old Böttger Steinzeug example of two "keets." The birds were sculpted by the artist, A. Caasmann, for Meissen. This is the only time I've ever seen this pair of budgies that was for sale, so I'm guessing it's fairly rare? Either way, enjoy ...

Best!

Bill