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#174630 04/13/2008 09:57 PM
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Remarkle porcelains. Eek

I also really like Gary's bronze statue, just awesome.

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Gents,

Sorry that this next unit isn't really imperial
but from the early twenties... I hope you won't hold it against me? Big Grin Wink

Bill

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#174632 04/18/2008 02:36 PM
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Bill, Gary & Guys.....

Great stuff !!!
Really enjoyable to see and admire...
You all make me continually commit the sin of envy......

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#174633 04/20/2008 09:01 PM
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Lou,

It's great to hear from other 'old-time,' heh..( Big Grin)
collectors - you and me enjoy this stuff, but do you really think the younger crowd enjoys pieces like these animals?

I guess daggers will always be the rage, eh? Smile

Either way, it's good to collect something.

No commiting sins of envy on my behalf amigo...
you, Jack, Gary, Tim, Andy, et al, should take a ride over some Sunday afternoon for a burger and a beer or two, or three ... at the same time make your reservation on a piece or two of porcelain - I'll be taking some nice units to the MAX this fall, at very attractive prices, too. Cool

And no more sinning you ruffian, especially since the Pope was just here!

Wink

Best regards to all !

Bill

Ps .. here's a big old brown bear eating his lunch, by the same German animal-sculptor who did the famous (Philadelphia) John Wanamaker, 'bronze eagle' sculpture, August Gaul. remember seeing that as a kid? You might just see his faint initials cast into the base..?

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#174634 08/28/2008 10:44 PM
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Just gotta kick this back to the top. So much to see. Eek

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Thanks to all who have made this thread such a pleasure to view and behold.
Hope this great stuff continues.

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Joe, Dean, Fellas,

Thanks for your continued interest, I'm glad to see you guys enjoying this wonderful area of study. Smile

Unfortunately not of imperial-origin vintage,
but nevertheless a Kärner, whose origins began near the fin de siecle. The small photo is just about to scale, while the others are more for detail. Hope you might enjoy this little guy ...

Best regards to all!

Bill

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Enjoy? Most definitely! Every time I step across the threshold of an antique store I hope to find an example. Smile So far. Frown

Wonder how many survived with tail intact?

Bill, congrats and thanks for sharing. Smile

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Joe,

Isn't that tail "the teats,?" Smile ..those hands, feet and ears are somthing extra special, too.

Will have something nice to show you soon.

Ciao!

Bill

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The 1913 Eagle with Prize is exqusite!!!!!! Thanks for sharing it.

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Gents,

Well, I finally have something interesting to share with you again that I hope you might enjoy...

A rare 1913 bronze "Schliereule," by Professor Kärner that he sculpted as a young man. Just enough detail to bring it to life, with some nice embellishment to the face and eyes.

Kärner's bronze works should be considered very difficult to find and should any of you get the opportunity find and purchase one, I'm almost certain you'll be quite pleased with the addition to your collection, no matter your forte'.

Wishing you all the very best of hunting and I hope to see some more porcelains, bronzes or small imperial artworks, from your collections.

Best regards from Philadelphia!

Bill

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#174646 10/09/2008 10:33 PM
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Hi Bill,
I was hoping this thread would'nt die out and appreciate you keeping it going.
Really nice bronze that looks very well kept for it's age.
Is there an signature on it or some type of marking linking it to Karner and can you say the approximate size of this item.
Thanks for showing it.

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Hi Dean,

I'm doing my best to keep things rolling along ... Big Grin

Well, let's see ... this solid little fellow tops off at app. nine inches and weighs at least a few pounds. It's nicely signed, Kärner, on the lower, flat rock beneath the base of the owl's tail. I've been looking for a good owl for years, in almost any medium and I must say I'm quite pleased with this neat, small bronze example. The only other one that I really liked was the great Allach owl by Wilhelm Neuhäuser - the white, undecorated pattern is absolutely fantastic!

Thanks for your continued interest. Wishing all of you happy and worry-free collecting - be careful out there ... Wink

Bill

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It has an intense gaze.

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Joe's quite right, it looks as if he's eyeballing a field mouse.


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#174650 10/12/2008 09:10 AM
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Joe & Billy,

He's keeping a sharp eye on our two kittys, Booboo and Scooter! Wink heh ...

Bill

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Hi Bill,

As you showed before you have a very good taste.
Just let me say something about the statue of the second owl.... Marvellous early Artdéco; I even recognize also a bit of Symbolism; look to the expression of the owl's face.
Concerning Déco; The design shows that the designer has considered the grade between object and naturalist animal... This statue is excellent.

Bill, thanks for posting!

Cheers,
Benten

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Benten,

Thanks for the nice comments, always glad to hear from members who enjoy looking at this semi-obscure part of the collecting field. Smile

Here's an interesting old Nymphenburg Dachshund that was originally sculpted by the famous French Animalier, Emmanuel Fremiet. The original bronze sculpture featured two old sitting dachshounds placed in the scene. (one is looking at his paw)

Someone at Nymphenburg decided to make a duplicate of this famous image, though, less one dog and unsigned. Quite possibly it was meant as a tribute to the old master? Well anyway, this is what we're left with, a single, sitting hound with a distinctive bell that's attached to his neck-collar.

In one of the reference books I have, the original bronze piece with the two dogs is misidentified as, "Basset Hounds." If anything,
this is a gnarly, older Dachshound and
definitely not a basset hound! Wink What do you think..?

Best regards!

Bill

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Gents,

Here's another one that I hope you might enjoy,
a fairly rare, early example by Prof. Kärner.
A Dachshund and a fox having a slight conflict of interests ... Big Grin

Best regards!

Bill

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Woaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, I really love that piece.
:eek

How big is it ?

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Pat,

It's about 12 inches long, 4 inches deep and 2 inches high. I've also seen one that was painted, but it didn't look as good as the all-white example.

Have you added any Allach pieces to your collection? Hope you're doing well my friend.

Best!

W~

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Bill,

You have the best collection of porcellan art out there. Just awesome pieces of art! Your Kärner Bronze owl is a "true rarity", more so than any of his paintings and what a marvel to behold. It's the first I've seen or heard of and what a treat! The Dachshund and fox is one of my all time favorites...Thanks again and I can't wait to view what you post next!

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I slept through those last two pieces. Nice Bill.

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Bill,
I love the Eagle, which is very impressive and stunning! The other pieces that jumped out are the white Stag as well as the Jäger with the Wildbret (Red Stag) and a Waidmansheil! Again my favorite is still the Eagle, what a stunning piece! Thank you for sharing! JME

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Imperial Roosters ...

Fellas,

Many thanks for your kind words and thoughts, I'm pleased to share my "glass-menagerie" of animals with you.

The long period of 'peace and quiet' from 1871 until 1914, produced a good share of talented, German animal artists. These years of economic stability brought with it a flourishing of the arts in all fields, when the money flows, the arts thrive... During this time period the style of Art Nouveau was king, in Germany it was known as the "Jugendstil" movement.
"Among the principal characteristics were a cursive, expressive line with flowing, swelling reverse curves, entrelacs or interlaced patterns, and the whiplash curve. In decoration, plant and flower motifs abounded, used for the first time in naturalistic form."

Animals also abounded in this naturalistic style, with the field of graphics producing the 'lion's share' of the bounty. To name a couple of my favorites, we have Anton Seder
and Professor G. Sturm, both were truly wizards at the drawing table.

Here's a very simple but powerful image of two roosters going head-to-head, or toe-to-toe, heh ... a very modest design in bold, vibrant, complimentary colors and reflecting most aspects of the exact definition above. This 'fighting-cock' illustration was prepared by an unknown-artist at the turn of the century, hope you might enjoy ... Smile

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Here's the bridge back to porcelain animals guys ... Big Grin

A lovely pair of Rosenthal fighting roosters by J. Feldtmann.

Best wishes to all for the upcoming holiday season, mates! Wink

Bill Warda

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Super nice roosters Bill. Do they get you up in the morning crowing? I am amazed they escaped damage with so much delicate detailed work. Now you need a pair of chickens to go with them. James

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James,

Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

Bill

Ps no chickens yet, though I recently saw a great early Nymphenburg pair of peeps, would that count? Cool

You can literally wade through hundreds and hundreds of porcelain figurines before you find a pair like the roosters.
99% will look something like this ... Eek

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Hey - "don't be hatin" as some would say Big Grin That chicken is a Nyphenburg


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Gentlemen,

To start with, I'd like to wish you all a great holiday season along with your loved ones.
It's a good time to be thankful for what have and enjoy it to the fullest - you know, eat, drink and make merry..? :-) Maybe a good way to look at life in these silly times we live in, eh? Here's to hope that you all find something super to add to your collections in 2009 !!

A special thanks goes out to all those who've contributed and shared their knowledge in all the forums and consistantly weather-the-storm with us. Gracias amigos!

An Imperial piece I'd like to share with you gents, an early study by Theodor Kärner. This one dates to 1912 and some of you might remember it from a post several years ago?
A rather large porcelain at app. 18" high by twenty inches long and at that size it makes for one of my largest animal sculptures. A little bigger than Allach's marvelous, good-size, "Frederick the Great," this Damhirsch or fallow-deer is found listed in the Nymphenburg catalog as number 157 - an uneven-antlered 18 point buck, eating leaves from an oak tree, having a decorated, natural-style base. Sort of reminds you of one of Santa's reindeer ... er, ahh, Blitzkrieg? ..no, no, that's not it ... Big Grin

Best regards to all,

Bill

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Bill,

That is one beautiful porcelain! Magnificent to look at. The roosters are very finely done as well. Great stuff not so often seen.

Mark Cool

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Marcus,

Thanks! Smile

A funny thing about the rooster pair that you might enjoy ...

I've seen this particular sculpture come in several different varieties; the birds done seperately and on different bases and the pair together, most done in a variety of hand-painted, color-schemes. Somehow, all of the painted examples ended up looking a bit amateurish or funky at best. My point being that the decorator/artist/painter can take a good sculpture of an interesting subject and louse it up due to lack of skill or inattention to his/her work. On the other hand, a top-notch technical painter can add so much to a piece,
literally turning a sow's ear into a silk purse.
(only not so drastic as the analogy) Big Grin

One of the most beautifully painted subjects is of course, Prof. Kärner's, "Der Alter Fritz," or "Old Frederick." (the great, that is) Smile
I can't imagine the foreman letting any of his apprentices practice their skills, or lack of it, on these fine casts?

Mark, is your colored version signed by the artist, or identified with initials? Also,
would you be so kind as to post a nice photo or two of "Old Fred?" Some closeups of the painting-detail would be great if you're so inclined? I never get tired of looking at that wonderful sculpture. Wink

Best!

Bill

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Willy, the Frederick the Great piece is identified by the artist's name on the bottom, PROF.TH.KARNER with the model # 94 and the impressed runes, no octagon surrounding the runes.

Pics to follow...

Mark

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Gents,

My thanks to Mark Paul for letting me add this image of the sculpture I was talking about, the King of Prussia, der sehr Geehrter, Friederich. This is one of the many fine pieces from Mark's fantastic collection of Allach porcelain. This lovely image of the sculpture will give you an idea of what to look for in a "good" porcelain,
no matter who the maker is.

Take notice to the attention paid to the smallest of details throughout the piece and how the subtle coloration really brings the whole work to life? It is precisely in this aspect that a first-class painter can contribute so much more to an already top-notch sculpture. It just adds that 'extra spark...'

Have a look-see for yourself ... Smile

Again, many thanks Mark! Wink

Bill

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