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#16717 12/28/2009 11:03 PM
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recent acquisiton,,,posted for your enjoyment...Robert

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#16725 12/28/2009 11:47 PM
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I fired one of those in 1965 or 1966. That might be the exact same one Big Grin

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#16726 12/29/2009 12:06 AM
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what did you hit dave?...

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It was on a military range at Baumholder. They had a couple of old tanks and trucks aim at. I missed as did most guys. You would have to be very very close to hit anything, according to the range NCOs, and then it was not as powerful as the 3.5 inch rocket launcher it replaced.

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#16728 01/02/2010 02:45 AM
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may I ask what you paid for it ? I have several tucked away fired of course from the army days

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Here's its big brother an AT4!
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Ran a LAW range at Fort Polk back in the early 70s. Lost count of the days I stayed late waiting for EOD to come blow a pile of duds. Not the most effective anti tank weapon, but we always demonstrated the power of the back blast on a few ammo boxes...pretty impressive. Also ran a anti-tank confidence range were we used M72s with sub-caliber devices (7.62 I believe) against advancing M60s. Fun, but just too close for comfort against armored vehicles sporting main guns and coax machine guns. Cool

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The AT4 I have pictured above is capable of being equipped with a sub-caliber device for practice. I believe this device is in 9MM. I have not had any luck locating one so if someone on the forum knows a source please let me know.
Jim

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35mm sounds more familiar.

M190 LAW Subcaliber Training DeviceM190 LAW Subcaliber Training Device
Practice rocket launcher with M73 practice rocket. The M190 subcaliber training device operates the same as an M72A2/A3 LAW. A modified M72A1/A2 launcher converted to fire a 35mm M73 rocket. The rocket, which contains a spotting charge, simulates the firing of the tactical weapon. The M73 rocket launches the same as the tactical rocket, but when the rocket head strikes the target, it sets off the spotting head that produces a flash, noise, and white smoke.

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35mm may be correct for an M72A2/A3 but the example I show above is an AT4 which stands for Anti Tank 84mm. These,from what I know, are produced for our military in Sweden, are fire once only then discard and supposedly cost $35,000.
That's why I'm fairly certain there is some sort of practice round capability for these.
Jim


See Below:
M136 AT4 launchers are marked with color-coded bands). A black with yellow band indicates an HE antiarmor round (early models had a solid black band). A gold or yellow band indicates a field handling trainer; no band indicates an M287 9-mm tracer bullet trainer.

AT4CS Confined Space
AT4CS is the world�s only anti-armor weapon that is fully operational in confined spaces. The addition of the AT4CS weapon is a major new component of the revolutionary MAAWS weapon system acquisition program. The AT4CS is a lightweight, disposable, one-user autonomous 84mm weapon. It is safely and effectively fired from confined space to defeat various military targets, including lightly armored vehicles, at both near and extended ranges. Research and development of the AT4CS began in Sweden in the late 1980s to meet the Army�s operational needs to engage targets in urban settings.

AT4CS was fielded quickly in response to the global war on terrorism. The single-use AT4CS weighs 17 pounds and is just over three feet long. It can be used against targets up to 900 feet away from the Soldier�s position inside a building, providing him protection from direct and indirect fire.

The USSOCOM Advanced Demolition Weapons project, initiated in FY 2001 with a two phase approach, is evaluating candidate shoulder-fired weapons developed by Diehl/Dynamit Nobel of Germany and Bofors of Sweden. The first phase (Anti-Tank 4 Confined Space High Penetration (AT4CS HP)) provided the urgent confined space capability to SOCOM users. The second phase (AT4CS RS, RS for Reduced Sensitivity) made significant improvements to the phase I systems (AT4CS HP) with fuze and explosive upgrades to meet safety review board requirements. Both phases of this project provide a critical capability to Special Operations Forces missions, including, engagement of targets from a confined space, Military Operations in Urban Terrain, anti-armor, and direct engagement of targets in protected/covered areas. In FY 2003 the project completed all safety tests and limited safety confirmation obtained; Testing demonstrated the system to be effective and can be safely fired from confined spaces; Systems were procured and immediately deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq; Milestone C production approval received in August 2003.

Saab received an award for AT4CS from the US Army as one of the top ten innovations in 2003. In 2004 the Army placed an order for the further developed AT4CS after an extensive United States Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) qualification.



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#16734 01/07/2010 07:36 PM
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I know there are atleast a 9mm practice weapon of the AT-4, and also a 20/21mm system as well (as we use for practice for the NM-72F1 variation in Norway).

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Jim,
Here is the rarely seen prototype German shoulder fired anti-everything weapon, an aborted project for obvious reasons. BTW, you going to be at the SOS?

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Jim, are you looking for the 9mm inlay tube for the AT4?? I think it is not ordinary 9mmx19 for this, but a special tracer round.
I may ask around..

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we had a sub calibre trainer for the 84mm and the calibre was 6.5 if I remember correctly and the sub cal plastic rocket for the m72 as discussed.
One thing for lower cost the m72s where made without the grazing fuze and this caused many duds on the range bad in the winter time

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Trigger:
Appreciate any help you can provide. I would just love to go over to my indoor range with a subcaliber unit installed and ask for a lane asignment. I can just about imagine the impression this would make on the counter person.

Andy:
Too funny!

Jim

#16739 01/11/2010 07:05 AM
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quote:
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Jim, are you looking for the 9mm inlay tube for the AT4?? I think it is not ordinary 9mmx19 for this, but a special tracer round.
I may ask around..

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Hi Trigger

yes there is a 9 mm round spesial made for this purpose.Limited velocity That round is tracer/RED.

A 21 mm inlay training is also made."Cold rocket" They came in a aluminium sylider with ignition cap primercord.

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Here is the reduced speed 9 mm pictured and the 21 mm "Cold" rocket.

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#16741 01/11/2010 07:14 AM
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The 21 mm .

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