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#164431 01/04/2009 09:30 PM
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#164435 01/06/2009 06:32 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by W.Unland:
Dear Bernd,

Of course you are correct. It hadn't even registered in my enfeebled mind that the eagle was an officer's, and you're right a beauty, so obviously NOT traffic police (no officers). It hadn't even registered in my enfeebled mind that the eagle was an officer's, and you're right a beauty, so obviously NOT traffic police (no officers).

If not for the stamp I would have voted Police General.

In any case beautiful piece. You and your son have cornered the police collecting market it seems Wink

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Bill Unland


Hello. Are you quite sure about your statement above Bill? Hmm?


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#164436 01/06/2009 09:57 PM
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Dear Joe,

Which part.....no traffic officers, nice eagle, or?

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Bill U

#164437 01/07/2009 04:52 AM
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Hey Bill. Well it is obviously a beautiful officer quality eagle, so......... You just keep leaning in this hobby.


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#164438 07/07/2009 10:40 AM
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BTT to keep alive

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'Ein kleiner Vogel kam geflogen ! '
This little bird landed in my hands at a small local militaria show this Sunday .

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..and it's backside .

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As you can see from the cut into the backing material at the joint of the wing (-- the backing to be folded over to be stitched onto the tunic ) and the stitch holes ,
---this eagle ACTUAL had been sewn to a tunic !

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..and one more shot showing the cuts at the wing joint .

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#164443 12/13/2009 11:06 PM
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WSP in action:

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Very cool photo.Almost looks like a gun turrent ahead of the crew compartment. Interesting choice of flag....a state service flag? Nice spotlight too.

Bill Unland

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All these items are rare and hard to find today.
I just recently missed out on a near mint WSP Aluminum buckle dated 1938 with the original belt.

Been wanting an original dagger with the grip emblem forever. But seems most all of them have been "modified" or questionable. Wanted a textbook example...finally...as though a dream come true..one has become aviliable that has met my criteria for this rare model. It's on it's way to me now.
Can't wait. I'll share it with you when it arrives.

-serge-

#164446 12/16/2009 03:01 AM
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Serge,

The piece you're referring to wouldn't have been the one off Eban a week ago, would it?


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#164447 12/16/2009 03:07 AM
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Yes, Billy it was.

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Serge,

I could tell that Alcoso was a winner all the way. Well done!


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#164449 12/19/2009 02:20 PM
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Hi Bill. That is an interesting photo. The state service flag was the standard banner for all police buildings, camps, etc., so it was appropriate to show it on a vessel. It wouldn't have had a license plate. I wonder what is on the jack-staff at the bow? Do you think that circular thing that looks like a gun mount was an engine access area? The ship was inboard, as you can see the engine cooling water discharging out the side below and in front of the policemen standing at the con.


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#164450 12/20/2009 02:38 AM
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Billy....it finally flew in today.
I been wanting to find one of these for years that was "texbook" and unmolested (improved by well meaning collector/s). Along with the Army dagger that the Vet brought back it looks to me the last person who put on the hangers on the scabbard was the German.
This WPP dagger made my Christmas.

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Hangers seemed to have been shortened.


#164452 12/20/2009 02:41 AM
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The blue leather on this dagger and the way it is singed by the brass wire gives a marvelous appeal to this scarce model.

From my understanding this type of "Solid Police" emblem is considered textbook for this maker. Were is that "textbook" on these anyway? Razz
Don't know enough yet about varients. Info is hard to find.


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Serge,

A stunner. If not me, at least it landed in the hands of someone who can appreciate it. Well done.


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#164455 12/20/2009 03:28 AM
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Serge:

Nice!

The AWS mark makes it a rather late in the game production, which make it even better. Most of us have never seen one of these outside of 'textbooks', and to actually have a full rig like that, amazing. Who says that e-ban is just junk?

John


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#164456 12/20/2009 05:55 AM
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Thanks Billy and John.

I've run across some scarce daggers in the past but not this model. Just going on that it's got to be scarce.

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Serge - it's a Real Beauty(!) CONGRATS!

Can you take a foto the finial / cap piece? I'd read something about the 'cat tails' on these, but I admittedly know very little about this rarely seen WSP Dagger.

Good Going on acquiring this Super Dagger for your fine collection. ...Dave/dblmed


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#164458 12/21/2009 01:22 PM
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Thanks Dave!

It was a long wait but I'm very pleased. Smile

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A few sleeve NCO eagles:

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Officer's cap eagle, heavily padded and a size comparison with a metal cap eagle, and sleeve eagle:

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"Naval style" WSP NCO schirmmutze:

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NCO sidecap:

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real nice to see all this nice stuff on the water protection police. You know ,there is more photos right here than in ANY book on this service!!!! If anyone here has time to kill , how about doing a book , with help from these contributors ???
I own a jacket , which IF I can get my camera to co-oporate with me & if I can dig the coat out , I will put up. my coat went from the vet to a family friend ,to my father & to me on x-mas morning in 1984. was in high school then. thank god I still have it over the years.
AND my father still kicking himself for giving to to me....
mine is a little diffrent..... actually states wasserschutpolizie above the sleeve eagle.
which I have yet to see here. man you guys are going to make me dig it out..... jeff h.

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hoping I have put a photo here. jeff h.

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the shoulder rank....

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sleeve eagle with the name !

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some how it would not take the other photo of the uniform maker neck tag, "masschneiderei Wilh. Nasse, kiel. jeff h.

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Hello,

Thanks for posting.

The tunic is interesting. Is it cotton? The shoulder boards look good, but the tunic should have sleeve braid. Any evidence of there ever being any applied? Any maker or issue stamps inside?

Unfortunately, NCO sleeve eagles were never named.

These tunics are EXTREMELY rare, and most were rebadged and used after the war.

The sleeve eagle you show is indeed one generally considered to be a reproduction, sorry. That does not mean the tunic is bad. I have never seen a WSP tunic offered for sale with a good eagle. They are just too rare.

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William Unland

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william, thanks. no noticable braid removal. no other markings noticed (I'll look again). surprized on the patch, as I havenot seen any like it for sale. ussually repros run in large groups to notice. it will stay till further notice. question ; why do these boards have yellow under lay, as most here seem to have blue ????. might it all be post war ?(afraid to ask...) even the intertwined cords are yellow. jeff h.

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Here is the more typical version of the reproduction sleeve eagle. I have seen it with "Wasserschutzpolizei" in the past but never saved the photo.

Regards,
Bill Unland

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