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Hello Guys!
I'm just back from the Max and I'm really excited with my purchases. I bought two NSKK items and I would like to share them with you. Enjoy!
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The 2nd model NSKK Crash Helmet! What a great piece of headgear I was looking for one at MAX 2007, but couldn't find it. I was lucky this week-end.
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I really like the design of the NSKK eagle
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Look at that handle!
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really nice stuff.thanks for showing
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Thanks Paul, I'm not done yet
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Nice blade, don't you think?
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Nice dark motto, only light runner marks! Okay guys, that's it. Thanks for looking
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Way to go Stephane, stunning display. Top shelf quality, congrats.
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Wow Stephane you didn't show me those pieces you accquired ! Those are really super and the condition is just show stopping ! Glad you found what you were after. It was good to see you again and will see you at the SOS.
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Stephane, articles extraordinaires! Congrats, Leipzig
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Stephane:
Wonderful items.
And they are even better looking if you would have been lucky enough, like I was, to hold them in hand.
John
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Thank you guys
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Neat stuff, I sold my NSKK Chained as it was not minty, yours is a killer! Nice find a real keeper IMO.
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Beautiful purchases, congrats.
Regards Trond.
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lovely, that dagger is a show stopper,
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Stephane, those are very nice items. I really like the both of them. Mark
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Thank you all for the positive feedback! Very much appreciated!
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Wow that is some dagger,nice find and a good hunt.Look out Pat you have another country man finding the super clean items.
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Wow, killer pieces - just beautiful. Congrats on these beauties!
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Great Crash Helmet & Chained NSKK. Nazi symbolism at it's Best!
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Superb, amazing additions to any collection.
Hi from Across the Sea Paul
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I should mention that the dagger comes from our very own Houston Coats!
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Stephane I think I have its twin! Paul
FUR EHR' UND PFLICHT BIS HERZ UND KLINGE BRICHT
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FUR EHR' UND PFLICHT BIS HERZ UND KLINGE BRICHT
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and interesting that chains follow 'PATS LAW' !! PAul
FUR EHR' UND PFLICHT BIS HERZ UND KLINGE BRICHT
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What a beauty, stone mint. You guys are lucky to own such excellent NSKK leader daggers.
Regards Trond.
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Paul: Very beautiful dagger. A twin of mine. As for Pat, he did help me pick up that one.
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Hi nice helmet any markings please? Cheers
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Bonjour Guymauve,
J'espère que vous allez bien. Je suis francophone aussi mais je viens du Canada.
I tried to take pictures of the internal markings, but my camera died on me. Here is the only picture I managed to take. There is also a unit marking. It says Motor Brigade something. I can't make it out for now, but I will post more pictures this week.
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Merci Stephane! un canadien francophone : mon jour de chance My son is dreaming to live in Canada... Nice marking, I have the same in a Tornister and a leather helmet. I have never found what means "M.Ü." Greetings from France
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I managed to take a few pictures of the faint unit markings on my helmet. I manipulated the photos to make the markings more readable. I believe it says Motor Brigade Franken. I do not know what the four big letters on top mean. Would anyone know? A big thank you!
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Cool Stéphane, it seems that this NSKK helmet belonged to someone stationed in Alsace (France).
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Wouldn't "Franken" Stand for Frankenwald or Frankonia which is in North Eastern Bavaria?
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It just struck me! The four big letters on top, I think they simply read N.S.K.K.!
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Stephane, the large letters are 'NSKK' - National-Sozialistisches Kraftfahr-Korps.
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Thank you Ruski, I think we posted at the same time,
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quote: Originally posted by Scott R.: Wouldn't "Franken" Stand for Frankenwald or Frankonia which is in North Eastern Bavaria?
Scott, you may be right but I can tell you that Franken is also a region in Alsace, France. There were also many Nazi troops stationed in Alsace during the war. Perhaps, someone with an expertise on the NSKK organization could tell us where it is.
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Pat - you may be right as well my friend. You gotta love the research part of this hobby! The detective work is what makes the hobby in my opinion. ( The cool stuff helps a bit as well ) I visit Franconia every few years, as I have family there. It is a large region where many area's have Franken as part of the name. ( Frankenwald, Oberfranken, etc.. )Frankenwald ( or the Franconian Forest ) is where my relatives are. Kind of like the Black Forest, but in the East - near the Czech border. Nice area without all the tourists.
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Hi Stephane nice marking! I see that your Sturzhelm was manufactured befor november 1, 1937 after the MB Franken was renamed Motorgruppe. For the nskk organization, Franken has nothing to do with Alsace. The great town of Franken was Nürnberg. Cheers
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I hadn't noticed that the helmet was manufactured prior to 1937...............2 years before the war even started. I guess it is logical to think that the marking didn't belonged to any place in "Frankreich".
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Thanks for the info Guymauve. This is quite exciting I must say. I love my helmet even more now. These crash helmets are fun. They look great and are well marked with research possibility. Pat, I've checked Google Maps and Nürnberg is onlz 333 km from Strasbourg, Alsace, so you were close An helmet from France would have been fun though. I hear lots of political TR items can be found in Alsace.
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Hi the Verodnungsblatt der Korpsführung 1/6/39 said that the 2nd model eagle (with nskk scroll)was available for the Reichsparteitag 1939 (Nürnberg ) The insignia will be deliver by the RZM after july 7, at the price 0,75 RM. Maybe yours was "updated" for the RPT? Cheers
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Hello Guymauve,
I just saw your latest post. Thank you for the information. I was wondering when the 2nd model was introduced. I have a book at home were it says it was done in 1938, but your information is much more precise. I didn't know the 2nd model eagle was available separately and that you could upgrade your helmet.
Just a personal observation: I see more 1st model NSKK crash helmets for sale than 2nd models. Have you noticed the same thing? Any idea why?
Thank you again for your help on this thread.
Stéphane
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Spephane and Paul, Great conditioned NSKK leader daggers you both have. Very nice crash helmet with clear markings. Congrats! -serge-
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Hi Stephane the cost of a Sturtzhelm was very expensive, early models buyed by the owners dont have any insignia or the SA cap eagle. Later the helmet was buyed by units (Sturm, Staffel, Motorstandarte...) at the Reichskassenverwaltung NSKK, as well insignias. The 1939 eagle came too late, they was other things to buy for the german war machine. Cheers
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Thank you Serge for your nice comment and once again, thank you Guymauve for the great information. Stéphane
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