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#153658 12/05/2007 10:53 PM
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Two of my singing association pins.
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Thanks Joe Wink

Let's start again.....

Reichsverband für Volksmusik (RfV) members badge.

(As usual, the bright gilding is due to scanner glare)

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And the 25 year honour pin


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Brehmer again


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From my Wife, the true d in --dj-- Wink

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Great thread!!! Haven´t seen this one...

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That was the honour pin of the Sängerbund Westmark.Also not seen yet...

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Thanks for the welcome! Dj,you are right mine has a gilt leave,I did not even notice that you showed one with a silver leave!That is interesting as I have had no real clue what to think of this somewhat cheap looking pin.Now that you say yours being silver I think of these being contest awards?

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Wachmann, I imagine you are correct that they are contest awards. I wonder if there is a bronze or a black leaf variety out there some where?

Don, interesting pin. One I do not recall ever having seen. I have so many to be on the lookout for. Smile

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#153668 12/06/2007 02:52 AM
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Sangerbund. Thüringen.
Obverse.

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Reverse, unmkd.

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Thank you Don, and thanks much for advising me that it is an honor version.

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Sorry some of the commentary has been lost. The images to this point have been saved. Smile Please add more as you collect them. Wink

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Hello Joe,
You sure have a great collection of pins....
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REVERSE

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ONE MORE IN CLOTH

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Two nice examples Dave. Both in great condition.

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Here are 2 stick pins I have. I know I have another one somewhere but can't find it Mad.
Sorry for the poor photos. Hopefully Santa will bring a new camera.

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2nd.

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#153681 12/15/2007 04:11 PM
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Raymond, thanks, photos look fine to me. Smile
Is there wool/felt material backing on the second pin?

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#153682 12/15/2007 09:45 PM
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Joe, the 2nd pin does have a black felt type of material. Looks just like the cap band on my Firepolice visor.

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While I still haven't located the pin I was looking for ( similar to the center of your Thüringen pin, Joe) I did find this one. I don't know if it's the same organization but I think it fits the thread. It's small in size (same as a dime) but very striking.

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#153685 12/20/2007 11:29 PM
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Raymond, nice looking Choir piece. Blue enamel really stands out.

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BTTT, there must be numerous examples of singing assoc. pins.

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Any one see a Sängerbund standad/flag?

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Nice pins gents!

Hope this old-timer will be ok here?

Best!

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Bill, that is a nice one. grin

Mrfabulous, this won't really help answer your question. I have seen a catalog with drawings of Imperial flag pole tops and at least one was music related. 3rd. reich banners I do not recall.

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derjager #244682 05/10/2011 07:19 AM
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Nice pins all! Now that's the cats meow! Anything with an Imperial eagle on it does it for me. I think I have a picture somewhere of a club flag.

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That's a beauty of a pin Bill, they knew how to make them then....

Here are a couple of mine.

Firstly, someone has already shown the Sängerbund Westmark golden honour pin, but I thought that I'd show this group of three, standard membership, silver honour & golden honour.

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Nürnberg honour pin.

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Finally for now a variant of the Badischer Sängerbund, marked 800. It's not as bright as it looks, that is due to the glare from the scanner.

I'm always a little sceptical of badges & pins that have a Swaz added to them as it could have been done at anytime, but here it is anyway.

Cheers
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Gents,

A fine thread here, these (perhaps underrated?) beauties are most impressive and those are superb additions Don, thanks!

I possibly have one more choir-related item to add, it might even be one of Gary's? heh.. I'll have to check ....? ... yes, one of Gary's medals, tucked in with some of his Karneval decorations. The 1927 Sängerbund/Musik medal has an unusual 'pinwheel' design and the glass is near flawless. So many wonderful and colorful enamel patterns to learn from.

I'd rather look at neat, authentic pins like these all day long than to have to look at one more dubious Knight's Cross or humped-up SS helmet. I trust that some of the younger fellas are having a look and taking notice of these fine originals? I'm of the opinion that it can only hone one's collecting skills for bigger and better things in future, or maybe that's just wishful-thinking?

Best regards and good collecting to all !

Bill

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a bit closer ...

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William, wow, awesome, I like! And there's so much about these that I like ... You also show very lovely Kleingärtnerabzeichen somewhere, its very very cool to see/learn of these, they are more original to collect. Underrated, maybe, but surely not by you, or me! Thanks a lot for sharing these shots!

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KR


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KR,

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed these nice specimens too! They really are great to look at ... grin

Again, my apologies for not being able to add another pin to the thread. So far you guys have posted some exceptional examples. I can only add this related medal from Gau Franken for fifty years of membership in the club.

I hope more members will continue to add their Sängerbund pins, badges and medals as time passes. It's always a treat being able to look at such fine, crisp images of these pre-1945 gems.

Thanks everyone!

B~

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Mr Fabulous, I'm not sure if this helps with your question about Sängerbund banners or not, but here is one from Männergesang Verein "Menningen". Menningen is a small town in the Rheinland-Pfalz.
Surely, there must be some sort of similarity between these two types of groups?? Anyone know?
p.s. Pretty sure I've posted these before.

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Some nice pieces Gentlemen, I especially like the carnival medals.

Here's another item with an added Swastika, which has been riveted on through a small hole. The badge itself is heavy & magnetic so it probably took some time to drill the hole through the centre of the circle. The question is when was it added?

There is some enamel damage to the Swaz.

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Don

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Denny,

A beautiful club flag! I'll bet the handwork is really impressive to see close up? Notice the swan motifs on the flag and the gold award? I didn't think swans were noted for their fine singing abilities? Anyone know the relationship there?

Don,

Always a pleasure checking your latest posts and photos, you really have a marvelous collection. Kind thanks for your unwaivering participation.

Best!

Bill

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Fantastic pins and banner guys!! The menningen choir "Harmonie" is the eldest Sängerverein in Menningen, in 2009 they existed 85 years already. Founded in 1924, spilt up in 1927 and another choir named "Sängerquartet 1927" founded. Reunited in 1935 though, into the "Männer Gesangsverein Menningen". During the 1960s, not many pople were singing anymore, and a mixed (men and women) group was formed, that was directed by Frau Tatjana Scheifler. From then on to now, the choir only is left with 18 members at some point, but, today (2011) the choir counts 25 members again, and, does a lot of singin at many difrent things and festivities.

As Denny shows, the Menningen Verein banner, between 1924 and 1931 was also at the back decorated with the words "Bewahr Dich Gott du Deutscher Sang von starkem Wort und Reinem Klang", a swan sometimes stands symbol for strength and purity, maybe (!!!not sure) it's used for that here too. But also, it could be the symbol from a song they used as signature-song?

BUT, I think, when I see the Franken pin also with a swan, that, it refers to greek mythology. The swan song ... swans, before dying, sing the most beautiful enchanting song anyone ever hears. All singers wanna sing just like that, wouldn't you think?

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Karin,

The white swan is the symbol for sincerity and is the bird of life. It also signifies solitude and retreat and is the bird of the poet, its dying song is the poet's song. wink

Thanks for the history of the club, most interesting.

Best!

B~

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Karin, thank you for researching the background of this Menningen group. Most informative and helpful.

Bill, this was no doubt, the most impressive banner quality-wise I have ever owned. The obverse background was made of velvet; the white was done in cotton, while all gold stitching and banner fringe was done in a metallic wire-type thread. The reverse background was in silk.

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I'm guessing this link
http://phpstack-500133-1583587.cloudwaysapps.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=245800&page=1
sparked the question from Mr. Fabulous.

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Came across this coloured postcard showing a Tiroler musiker the other day & noticed that he was wearing the Deutsches Sängerbundesfest tinnie, from Breslau in 1937....

The badge is posted on this thread on page 2 I believe

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Nice postcard Don. To bad he was not laden with shooting badges too. smile

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Don,

A very nice old cultural photograph, even if he's not sporting some great old Tyrolean shooting awards ... grin wink
Good of you to spot and post this.

Just as a coincidence there's a 'Tyrol-related' thread currently on the Imperial Graphics thread, if you'd like to have a look for a bit of background history?

For a long time now, Dean Perdue has been sharing his marvelous collection of illustrations with us over there, and his latest post depicts the fate of this Alpine region after WWI, with a brilliant image.

Wishing all our contributors the best of luck with your collections ... and thanks for sharing them with us.

Best wishes!

Bill

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Thank you Joe & Bill,

You are certainly right Joe, my heart stopped when I first saw it but sunk when I realised the it wasn't a shooter he was wearing.....

Thanks for the heads up Bill, some nice cards being shown there. I tend to forget that many do not know the history of that region.

Cheers
Don


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Sangerbund related materials should be an affordable avenue for collectors. Anyone specialize in this organization?

--dj--Joe

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This topic has languished for some time. Anyone have something to add?

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