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I have seen 3 short Pioneers over the years I have been collecting and this one is THE ONLY one I have seen with stag grips. RARE is the word, and best of all its a Pack. IMO the Cadillac of the dress bayonet makers.
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Ron, John and Mr.Jerry all i can say is niceeee! I'll get serious about collecting Bayo's when thing's turn around. Hey Ron put me in your will...as if! hehehe
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I've shown these before, but here are the four basic Pionier variations. Unfortunately I don't have any Pack examples.
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E&F H�rster
unmarked
C. Gustav Spitzer
Carl Julius Krebs
The Krebs is one of the three short models previously owned by Ron.
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Interesting patent leather KS98 frog.
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Denny
I don't think I have ever seen one marked that way.
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Denny:
I have the first, second and third versions of the ones that you showed.
The first is a long Eichorn 35-41 maker marked.
The second is a short unmarked.
The third is a long Eickhorn double oval serrated tail mark.
John
Always looking for Eickhorns and etched bayonets.
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quote: Originally posted by JohnZ:
Denny:
I have the first, second and third versions of the ones that you showed.
The first is a long Eichorn 35-41 maker marked.
The second is a short unmarked.
The third is a long Eickhorn double oval serrated tail mark.
John
John - I think the fourth one; the short model with the unclipped pommel is the rarest of the quartet. Ron had it for sale at the 2005 SOS and then it popped up for sale later that year by another seller. For once I got lucky and bought it for less that 50% of Ron's original asking price. I have a few other Pioneers, but don't recall the makers. I know one of them is an early Paul Weyersberg oval mark.
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Denny, You ARE a lucky dog, just admit it 
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I didn't mean to imply in my previous post that Ron Weinand's price was unreasonable. He was asking about the same price as a Prussian-style Police bayonet at the time. I've seen hundreds of Police Seitengewehrs since then - but this is the only Pioneer of this style so his price was ok in my book.
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