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I need a bit of help on this one as I have not seen a knot quite like it, the cords are 23cm which would indicate a luft knot but the ball is much longer than usual and the slide is massive, I know that it is original and presume it is an early luft knot perhaps before they were standardized somewhat.
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Gary
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Gary I'm pretty sure it's not a luft. portepee but it may be for another type dagger other than German.
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Hi Ed
You might be right, I'm not sure, the fact that the cord is 23cm's is a big coincidence though. It's been tied on something as the wear is condusive with other knots I have seen. I know there were some very early army portepee's similar in shape but obviously with a longer cord.
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Like other Lufts/Armies/Navies,just another variation.There were lots of portepee makers. I mean lots.One little town in Bavaria,Weissenburg had literally dozens of small makers.Even now there are still several makers there. Seiler (Yank in UK) 
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IMO that is one of the newer fakes or for some other post war dagger. IMO the construction is poor, much too different, and of a lower quality than any period piece.
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Probably. Seiler 
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Well we do have a wide range of opinions, I can say that I am 100% sure this is not a new fake, I have also not heard of a post war dagger that uses a bullion knot like this but I also know I have not seen everything and you guys might be right, maybe one of you European dagger collectors can think of a dagger it may be related too.
I personally think it's a genuine knot of the 3rd Reich period, quite what it is for I cannot say but my gut instinct still tells me it's for a luft.
Thank you for your opinions that is of course my reason for first posting it.
Gary
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HI IS IT ABOUT THE SIZE OF A GOV OFFICIAL KNOT OR LARGER,SAW A PIC OF A GOV DAGGER WITH A SIMILAR KNOT SOMEWHERE.HAD A DIFFERENT CORD THOUGH.
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I would vote for not German made... but perhaps made for German. A Luft officer stationed in Romania perhaps?
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Cannot say anything about the posibility of a foreign knot but due to quality, appearance and certain minute details (waving, threads, proportion, use if certain wire) I don�t think it is for any german edged weapon 33-45.
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wotan, gd.c-b#105
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The string to pull the sides in around the the dot is lost. This may account for the miss shape. A picture next to a reg Luft knot may yield you more opinions....
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