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1st up, post war Hamburg NCO Tschako. This has basically the same construction that the WWII ones have, including the adjustable vent holes.



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Next up, patches from the state of Baden-Wurttemberg. The photos show a wide array, from post war police, to current issue.

Also included are some civilian enforcement patches. Most of the times these patches will be titled with a variety of names such as "polizeibehorde" "Ordnungspolizei" "Ordnungsbehorde" "Verkehrsuberwachungs" etc.. Basically these are non-police officers who are tasked with civilian enforcement of local laws such as littering, parking infractions, etc.. Each state is different in its terminology and this is only a "bumber sticker explanation".



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George

No problem. The high crown design (Red Crown) was instituted in 1935 as the official stadtwappen of Berlin.

After WWII both West & East Berlin continued to use this form. In the early 1950's there was an effort to move away from "association" with East Germany. Subsequently the crest was redesigned and in approx. 1954 West Berlin changed their stadt wappen to the one depicted below in Gold.

The East Berlin crest remainined in effect till 1990.

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The next series of photos are from the state of Hessen. This depicts both obsolete and current insignia. Of special note is the post war "Border Police" patch written in English, German, French and Russian



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Photos of the pocket badges will be forthcoming.

Hope everyone enjoys the posted pics and let me know if you have any questions.

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Yes, German post war collecting can be a lot of fun. I don't think many collectors realize how many patches are out there, especially from the American controlled sector which had a lot of Town & City police departments. Things slowed down after the transition and the "uniform reorganization" in the mid 70's. But since the late 80's there are more and more special unit patches which makes collecting a lot more fun.

I always liked the old Berlin High Crown stadtwappen. I have a few old patches with this crown.

I did have the old Berlin Tschako high crown badge at one time, but I had to sell most of it after a divorce. Slowly I am rebuilding my collection a little at a time.

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Next up, a later issue Tschako from Nordrhein Westfalen.



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Thought I would add some pics of my recent collection purchase. The subsequent photos will show some of the post war insignia I was able to acquire. This in addition to the 3rd Reich items.


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This photo depicts insignia from Bavaria. The 1st city police forces were created after WWII and slowly began to be incorporated into the state police beginning in 1953. The last city in Bavaria to be merged was Munich in 1975.



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I've been collecting civilian police insignia for over twenty years with an interest in German. Unfortunaly it's not as extensive as it once was after I had to pay an attorney for a divorce ten years ago.

If you follow this link: http://www.huntzmanpatches.com/germany(C).htm you will come to my German page. Each federal and state agency is listed individually, and at the bottom is a link you can follow to my newbie WWII collection.

Anyone with questions please feel free to ask / email me.

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Next up are the civilian insignia. Note the name change progression in the Frankfurt am Main ones.



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Next up is an array of patches from throughout Germany. These represent both old and new insignia. The "Polizei Bremerhaven" is an obsolete style from when the city and state maintained there own police forces. This is a rank patch and would have been worn for Polizei Kommissar until 1968. Each patch had a different rank !!



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Andrew : You did a great job showing us these very different and colorful patches . Sure can keep you intersted to get them all. Only post-war shako I have is one for the city of West-Berlin with the bear and a high "crown " . In use around 1950's . Ps. I recall a guy at my Federal Office who was a Federal Police Officer and collected US.city and county -Police and Sherif sleeve patches :--all just as different and colorful !

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and last but not least, corrections !!



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Now that these reference threads have been resurrected and separated I thought I would post a West German Police assault harness. This one is very similar to the WWII style.

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The front clips are distinctive and different from the WWII clips and can quickly identify this assault harness as postwar.

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Police school markings and date found on the Y strap. I presume this marking indicates the Hamburg Police School?


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Police school markings and date found on the Y strap. I presume this marking indicates the Hamburg Police School?


George

Nice straps. The markings might also indicate Polizei Schleswig Holstein. I think if it were suposed to be Hamburg, it might have been marked "HH"

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Interesting photo on eBay - at 1st look I thought it is Ost police, but Spandau & Charlottenburg were in West-sector & Ost police forces wore dark blue uniforms in that times....
http://cgi.ebay.at/Foto-Polizei-1945-Polizeischule-Span...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Jiri,

An excellent picture indeed. Interesting tunics with concealed flap pockets. The caps look like a mix of NS Zeit and newly made ones in police green. I particularly like the use of de-Nazified buckles, particulary the one Luftwaffe buckle.

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Just got this German Water Customs removable visor cap band .It is very well made and the front is on a cardboard stiffener with padding behind the stitching .

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...and aclose-up.

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..and lower section close-up .

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The ribbed cap band is stitched to the back of the front insignia , the overlap is stitched also .

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Now some Polizei items I got .

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The 3 metal insignia are for Munich , Hamburg and Berlin .The Berlin one has a srew back fastener ,the Munich and Hamburg ones have 2 prongs each .

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One of the small patches are for the state of Hessen and 2 are for the state of Nordrhein -Westfalen . Does anyone know the state of the collar tab and what rank it is ????

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..second view.

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...here is the second view !.

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Probably Bayerische Landespolizei from mid 70's.

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Just got some more German Police cap badges in the mail .

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The upper two are for the city of Stuttgart, the lower left one is for the city of Karlsruhe and the lower right one for the city of Mannheim .

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...and some more .

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The upper left is for a city I can't ID , ANY INFO WELCOME ! Left upper patch is for the state of Rheinland -Pfalz, lower left cap star for the state of Niedersachsen , and lower right for the city of Berlin.

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Close-up of the city I can't ID .Shows a 3 sail ship and a whale below in the water .

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City of Berlin .

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State of Niedersachsen.

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..and 4 more .

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Upper right one is for the city of Hannover ---and again one city I can't ID , ANY INFO IS WELCOME !. Lower left one is for the city of Stuttgart and lower right one is for the state of Rheinland-Pfalz .

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Close-up of the 2 Rheiland-Pfalz ones .

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