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Here now the visor cap with the star that has the Hambufg City Gate insignia.

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Special belt buckle locking wheel device on the wool waist band.

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View of the NCO rank insignia that is machine sewn to the right sleeve. I am not certain of this particular rank.

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Close up view of the collar tabs. Notice the grey Litzen are embroidered on black backing. The squared collar tabs are machine sewn to the collar.

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Here the inside back.

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The pants have a green stripe down their sides.

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Interior view of the Berlin Schupo tunic. Notice that there is a bandage pocket and a slit in the right hip pocket for the holster to be worn suspended from the trouser belt. This slit is typical of West German Police tunics that are made so the pistol can be worn on the outside of the tunic without an exterior belt. Also notice the interior straps for belt hooks in case an exterior belt is worn.

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Here my Hamburg Polizei Oberleutnant tunic .Posted by Bernd.

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Shoulder board and city insignia .

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The tailor lable below the inside left breastpocket.

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Green stripe of the pants leg.

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"Hamburg"it should be ! Inside of the cap.

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Thanks Bernd! What I was really surprised about is the quality of some of these visors. The last visor is WSP? Is the below what you wanted to see?

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Dave : VERY NICE ! I like to see a close-up of the gray wool cap with the bullion leaves around the national bulls eye ,--PLEASE . Can't make out what state or city this one is ??? The last one you showed I also can not place --is it a veteran's club one ?? Thanks , Bernd .

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Not sure what I was thinking but one day when Reich collecting went slow....

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Bernd: Agreed and for 30 pieces of E. & W. German headgear, I paid a fraction of what one resonable Reich era Schupo enlisted visor sells for!

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Dave : Thanks , yes that is the one . Very nice bullion work . I like the German Polizei visor caps also ; first for the high quality and second for their reasonable price . Regards , Bernd .

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This one is nice...I think...

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Dave : VERY NICE ! I like to see a close-up of the gray wool cap with the bullion leaves around the national bulls eye ,--PLEASE . Can't make out what state or city this one is ??? The last one you showed I also can not place --is it a veteran's club one ?? Thanks , Bernd .


Bernd

Yes, the hat shown by Dave is an obsolete issue (last worn around the mid 70's) WSP one from Nordrhein / Westfalen.

Dave, by the way that is a very nice little collection of WG Hats. I especially like these older ones because of the wide variety of materials use. I know the foudnation for the Police Re-Org. of the 70's, but they took a lot of character out of the uniforms. The only scarier thing is the new uniforms starting to appear in some of the states....... Eek

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Dave,

Glad to see that you were able to get the older posts loaded back up. I was hoping they hadn't been "lost".

Additionally, for those just coming here, page 1 of this thread features an in-depth examination of the post war police insignia for the states of Baden-Wurttemburg and Bavaria. The next posting will be on Berlin.

Anyone with questions regarding post war police insignia is encouraged to contact me. Additionally, corrections / updates are highly encouraged.

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Here my latest Bundes -Polizei rainovercoat for traffic police and visor cap ; 2 different states . Posted by Bernd

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Upper interior area with manufacturer's tag . Ink-pen name at interior of collar : Michael Schlolfer . Buttons are marked to Overhoff & Co and their OLC mark , size 20-1/2 M .

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Here now the visor cap with it's waterproof top material.

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Upper back area.

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White interior silk liner with celloide with gilt lettering : " Landesbeschaffungsstelle Baden- Wuerttemberg , 5 ,55,"--- and name on paper slip :" Peter Walz--II. Zug ". A nice and quality Visor cap !

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Close-up of the tag.

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..and backside.

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...and open collar front.

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...and the full dress Pol. decoration medal bar.

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..and close-up.

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Reinforcement at the sleeve area , underside is left open for about 4-inches.

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..and sideview.

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Overall interior view.

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Andrew,

Some wonderful patches! It is great to see the progression of the patches of a single jurisdiction over time. I have noticed that the postwar Tschakos have also come into their own in the past few years and are becoming quite collectable.

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George

Yeah, it is interesting as you get involved in collecting each state to watch the progression. Sometimes it can be a real head scratcher as you think you have gotten a grasp on it, and then realize you don't..... some state are easy, like Schleswig Holstein (English Controlled). Others are a royal pain like Bavaria (US Controlled).

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Andrew,

Can you discuss the differences in the crowns we see on Berlin Wappen? I understand the East Germans did not like one or the other versions because it harkened back to Imperial times. I am a bit shaky on the differences however.

This is a cap that was given to me when I visited the Berlin Polizei just after the fall of the wall.

George

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