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This post is for Terry essentially.
What do you think about this dress bayonet? It's for sale in France for about $200.
Thanks, arnaud

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I have a long bladed version like you show, except mine is single etched. Sieber distributor marked bayonets are not to common.

I've had mine a few years, by my records I paid less than $200. I guess that shows how the prices have gone up. The one you pictured looks very nice. Below is some interesting facts on the Pirmasens.

The "Westwall" museum association HGS Gerstfeldhoehe is located at the edge of Pirmasens Niedersimten. As former militarily used system (" hollow hohlgangsystem ") this building is suitable for a splendid representation of the history of the "Westwall". The underground facilities are the largest in the context of the "Westwall" schedule of work for underground systems. It is unique from the size and the preservation status and represents thus a singular historical object of outstanding cultural and historical importance. The museum is equipped with diagrams, with which the planning, the building, the military use and the civilian use of the "Westwall" systems are illustrate. The tunnels lead underground, which are partially and fully equipped, extend in the rock up to 1000 meters. The backbone of this position was formed by the fortress factory with the attached shelters, the so-called b-Kleinstwerken, and B-factory Obersimten. The train system Gerstfeldhoehe extends above the Gersbachtals between Obersimten, Trulben and Vinningen. Planned altogether over 9000 meters were tracks and a barracks system with approximately 4000 meters of tunnels on two levels. The two levels are connected with a 68 meters high lift well. The lower level served for the bombardment-safe crew and ammunition feed for the upper level or as barracks for soldiers and the operating personnel. A track course led from the input Niedersimten by a main traffic hollow course to the feed elevator, which brought the trucks into the upper level. In this level a narrow-gauge railway would bring crew and ammunition underground over a distance of 5000 m up to the foremost emplacements in the Trulbener valley. The construction work was stopped because of the military position at that time of 1941 and taken up only 1944 to a modest extent. A part of the system served the civilian population of Niedersimten starting from 1944 as safe accommodation before air raids.

During World War II, the 71st Infantry Division broke through the Siegfried Line to capture Pirmasens, after which the Division's advance continued to the Rhine. The Division moved through the outer belts of the Siegfried Line and captured Pirmasens on 21 March 1945, and crossed the Rhine at Oppenheim on 30 March 1945.

After the war the Allies used the lower level as depot for war material. In the mid-1960s the US Army General Depot at Pirmasens managed the "supply cave" below Hill 486, with acres and acres of "stuff". The Depot`s "controlled environment" storage buildings kept tanks in them - fueled and armed - all ready to roll. In the today's status the rail system on the lower level with approximately 1000 meters and hollow tunnels presents itself. On the upper, at present not accessible, are floor of about 4500 meters.

Pirmasens is the center of the German shoe industry. The town, nearly destroyed in World War II, is now a bustling, modern town. Located close to the famed "Wine Road," Pirmasens offers numerous opportunities for day trips and excursions through Germany's beautiful vineyards and farmlands.

Hi,

it's a nice dress bayonet with a nice distributor marked blade. Good catch

JAN

Arnaud,
Does this mean you are moving over to the "shiny" side? I'm sure you have every maker & year on the "blued" side by now.
Are you coming to the SOS this year?

Thanks for FAST answer Terry !
Denny, no, I still miss some on the "blued side", and I'm not moving over the "shinny one", just trying to get nice stuff when i see some.
I'm not coming to the SOS this year because of 9 month old baby girl, but I'll do my best to come next year.
I'll soon post pics of my girl holding bayonets, because i start showing her yesterday, and she seem more interested in them than in her teddy bears !!!

Arnaud,

I'm not surprised Terry has one but that said, I've never seen that mark before. Scarce to be sure, maybe even rare. Nice too because it's dual marked with the manufacturer.