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SS-Dagger no maker #148837 05/12/2007 09:13 AM Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 138 Germany / Großherzogtum Baden sabazius OP OP sabazius Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 138 Germany / Großherzogtum Baden hello is this dagger original or fake ? regards sabazius ooooo.jpg (99.86 KB, 299 downloads)

Re: SS-Dagger no maker #148838 05/12/2007 09:14 AM Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 138 Germany / Großherzogtum Baden sabazius OP OP sabazius Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 138 Germany / Großherzogtum Baden 1 fre.jpg (96.75 KB, 298 downloads)

Re: SS-Dagger no maker #148839 05/12/2007 09:15 AM Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 138 Germany / Großherzogtum Baden sabazius OP OP sabazius Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 138 Germany / Großherzogtum Baden 2 jhgf.jpg (99.79 KB, 294 downloads)

Re: SS-Dagger no maker #148840 05/12/2007 09:15 AM Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 138 Germany / Großherzogtum Baden sabazius OP OP sabazius Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 138 Germany / Großherzogtum Baden 3 lkuz.jpg (93.28 KB, 287 downloads)

Re: SS-Dagger no maker #148841 05/12/2007 09:16 AM Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 138 Germany / Großherzogtum Baden sabazius OP OP sabazius Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 138 Germany / Großherzogtum Baden 4

Re: SS-Dagger no maker #148842 05/12/2007 09:16 AM Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 138 Germany / Großherzogtum Baden sabazius OP OP sabazius Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 138 Germany / Großherzogtum Baden 5 ss2.jpg (67.07 KB, 285 downloads)

Re: SS-Dagger no maker #148843 05/12/2007 09:17 AM Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 138 Germany / Großherzogtum Baden sabazius OP OP sabazius Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 138 Germany / Großherzogtum Baden 6 mjh.jpg (88.89 KB, 279 downloads)

Re: SS-Dagger no maker #148844 05/12/2007 10:17 AM Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 915 Johannesburg, South Africa Redbaron Redbaron Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 915 Johannesburg, South Africa It's a copy... the blade is a well known fake. They are usually hilted to the Spanish grips with the high placed eagle with squared wing tips. The hilt on this one actually fits very well, the hilt MAY even be real, can't tell from these pics though... Red

Re: SS-Dagger no maker #148845 05/12/2007 01:07 PM Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,026 Z zorro zorro Z Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,026 Are the scabbard fittings magnetic or non-magnetic.From the pictures I see nothing that raises a red flag,but thats what pictures do. "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to relive it" Santayana

Re: SS-Dagger no maker #148846 05/12/2007 01:21 PM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 974 Europa 777 777 Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 974 Europa Blade is a 100% copy. It's quite easy to recognize by the shape of first letter "M". It's no problem to see it even looking at not so perfect picture of the motto. Some parts may be authentic, ex-NSKK or SA. www.SADAGGERSBOOK.COM

Re: SS-Dagger no maker #148847 05/12/2007 04:13 PM Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,039 Likes: 5 Skyline Drive Skyline Drive Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,039 Likes: 5 Is there a marking on the tang?

Re: SS-Dagger no maker #148848 05/12/2007 04:38 PM Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 138 Germany / Großherzogtum Baden sabazius OP OP sabazius Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 138 Germany / Großherzogtum Baden hello thanks all the scabbard fittings non-magnetic, no tang mark, sabazius

Re: SS-Dagger no maker #148849 05/12/2007 09:26 PM Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,026 Z zorro zorro Z Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,026 Again it is hard too say with the photos...but I would say there are more things right with it than wrong. "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to relive it" Santayana

Re: SS-Dagger no maker #148850 05/12/2007 09:39 PM Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,039 Likes: 5 Skyline Drive Skyline Drive Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,039 Likes: 5 I wouldn't be too quick to call it bad. I agree that it's not possible to tell much with these photos. This style "M" is found on some blades with the seven circle tang marking.

Re: SS-Dagger no maker #148851 05/12/2007 10:20 PM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 974 Europa 777 777 Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 974 Europa Sabazius, good picture of motto would be very helpful ( with distance between crossguard and motto visible). Let's see how it fits to the H E marked crossguards (usually seen with Eickhorns)... www.SADAGGERSBOOK.COM

Re: SS-Dagger no maker #148852 05/12/2007 10:32 PM Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 15,100 Likes: 102 Southeast Dave Dave Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 15,100 Likes: 102 Southeast I would like to see much better pictures or (better still) the dagger face-to-face before saying anything. At the moment all I see is inconclusive pictures. Dave

Re: SS-Dagger no maker #148853 05/13/2007 06:46 AM Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 138 Germany / Großherzogtum Baden sabazius OP OP sabazius Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 138 Germany / Großherzogtum Baden hello I wanted to buy the dolch, unfortunately am terminated the auction, the dolch for 430 euro sell here the link http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=1348169 sabazius

Re: SS-Dagger no maker #148854 05/13/2007 07:25 AM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 974 Europa 777 777 Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 974 Europa I wouldn't regret it. "No returns" policy from the seller? Well... I still don't like the motto and the grip looks very new to me. 430 euros? That's quite "cheap" for "original" SS dagger www.SADAGGERSBOOK.COM

Re: SS-Dagger no maker #148855 05/13/2007 07:36 AM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,616 Likes: 1 Gold Country S Serge (aka Wagner) Serge (aka Wagner) S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,616 Likes: 1 Gold Country Come on guys... Skyman, you see that "M" in the motto does not match a Klitterman and Moog blade. This one has too many question.. You don't need that in a SS dagger. Do You? -wagner-

Re: SS-Dagger no maker #148856 05/13/2007 04:43 PM Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 242 england N nickn nickn N Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 242 england the grip is new i bought an identical one at the stuttgart show