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#148721 12/10/2006 01:44 PM
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Did WMW use their own unique etch pattern on their swords, or did they borrow the etch from another manufacturer as some bayonet makers did? If they used a particular etch, anyone out there have any info on what the etch should look like as reference sources for WMW are pretty scarce. How rare would a WMW double etch dove head be considered?

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#148722 12/10/2006 08:32 PM
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gelb, please post a pic of this sword if possible. Some one years ago some clown put out a batch of fake Alcoso doveheads with WMW marked blades.
They`re also not etched on blade spine. Smile

#148723 12/10/2006 11:29 PM
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mrfabulous, At the moment the sword is not in my possesion. It's being held for me by the seller. He already knows that I want to get some pictures of the sword. As soon as I do, I'll post them. From what I remember, the dovehead looked correct with the small WMW acorn at the end of the quillon. My concern was with the blade etch as my references are poor in this area. I appreciate your tip regarding the fake Alcoso doveheads, I'll keep it in mind. This particular sword has been in a collection for many years. The owner is beginning to pass the torch on some of his collection. I've bought some daggers and bayonets from him in the past and have developed a good relationship with him. Assuming this sword to be legit, it sounds as if you don't see to many of these around. At least not here in the burbs north of 8 Mile Rd.

#148724 12/14/2006 12:46 AM
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Gelb 14

Which dress bayonet producers "borrowed" etches from each other?

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#148725 12/14/2006 03:50 AM
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Hi Wayne, Perhaps " borrowed " was not a good choice of words. What I was getting at is that certain companys such as C.D. Schaaff would " purchase " blades from Robert Klass with the Klass eagle and stamp their own hallmark on it. This particular WMW sword seems to have an Alcoso #2285 crossguard. I don't really like this, but realize manufacturers did procure parts from other manufacturers to fill orders. The question regarding the etch is simply to determine if Max Weyersberg had their own etch patterns so I can verify the etch on the blade.

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First, I really knew (down deep inside) you knew what you were talking about, but just phrased it incorrectly. I was just trying to "turn your crank".

Second, sword etches is a subject that needs to be addressed and answered in a reference book. Anyone out there willing to "step up to the plate"? It always seemed to me that sword etches like dress bayonet etches were the PRODUCTS of certain producers. I mean, that you never see an Eickhorn sword etch on any sword OTHER than an Eickhorn. The big problem as I see it is to identify (at least) known sword etches to their PROPER manufactures cuz I don't really think that companies like Alcoso etched their own swords but farmed it out (like they did with their dress bayonets). I would certainly be on the "buyers list" if anyone would produce a worthwhile reference on the subject.

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#148727 12/14/2006 10:27 PM
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Von Ryan, I would also be on that buyers list. As stated, a subject that needs further exploration.

I promise not to say borrow.
I promise not to say borrow.
I promise not to say borrow.

#148728 12/15/2006 04:40 AM
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Gelb 14,

Proceed directly to the Eastern Front!!!

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