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Even funnier to read comments by you iv - money was sent to Vern a couple of days ago.

Vern has been out of town since Friday, so I have activated your Premium Membership.

Many Thanks Dave!

So now we may see if FullRohmOwner gets the ridiculous price he expects for that piece of junk ....

Gordon

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Floridaguyz1,
Although I may list the dagger here in the future, I have no intention of putting my dagger on this site at this time. I became a premium member because I've learned alot here and felt I owed a little in return. However, reading comments from people like you certainly make me questiion my decision.

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Originally posted by ivbaust:
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Oooohhhh, I would love now to comment this ... but I don´t.

Can't say I blame "FullRohm" for not putting it for sale since this group of collectors are aware of the daggers prior condition and will only consider a purchase of an item like that if it is priced as a "Heavily Restored" dagger.
I concur with Ron Weinand comment.

But perhaps "FullRohm" can show us a "restored" photo or two?
I would like to see how that grip turned out. Looked like a gonner to me.

-serge-

Why would one bothered to restore the existing grip. May be much easier to buy a good grip and fit it to the existing crossguards. I am sure, Vern can easily do so. Paint the scabbard and polish the blade a bit. Or buy a new scabbard and fit the blade in it. The dagger would look 100% better.

Oleg 1: It is obvious you haven't handled very many SS Himmler's or Roehm's as they are not the same as regular SS M33 Daggers. The fittings have a slightly higher nickel content, the scabbard's bluing is a little more quality and the grip's finish is a little finer than the standard M33 SS Dagger.
Anyone who deals in honor daggers can tell the difference after looking at a few over time.
JMO,
Ron Weinand

Ron, so the grip of Roehm would be different from regular M33? What about SA Roehm and non Roehm?
I know that Himmlers are different but Roehms I am not sure. If they are different, why would SAs stay the same except for the Roehms inscription?

Eickhorn SS Himmler's and SS Roehm's had grips that were finished differently from the standard dagger. For some reason, the finish was harder and the top layer of the grip was a little more brittle and they tended to flake the top layer off, mainly near the crossguards.
I don't believe it was the grip material, but rather the black dye or the final finishing that caused this difference in the honor daggers.
This was not evident on the SAs, however.
JMO,
Ron Weinand

When I need a good laugh now I just read this thread...not funny really, it is embarrassing and a real shame. Again time to grow up.

Ron is right. There are differences between Eick Rohm, Himmler Vs. Eick SS M33.

Then regarding the grip repair, does that now mean that it's a half Honor and half standard grip?

-serge-

Its a frankenstein Rohm now!

"To properly conserve the integrity of the SS dagger, it is always best to repair the original damaged grip, no matter what the effort."
reference; "Exploring The Dress Daggers and Swords of the German SS" by Thomas T. Wittmann.

I have to ask a question ,Ok it's a dagger that needed work but still original ,how many of us would have thrown it in to a trash pile ??Right now that is what most of the people are doing.Restored ,original it is what it is.I know I would have keep it.If he sells it's his right and to ask any price.At times I DON'T wonder why the membership has declined so much.JMO

I think some are being a bit harsh here. Although blunt opinions can sting a bit, they often are made with good intentions (yes, I know the old "road to hell" saw). Certainly, the owner has the perogative to ask what he wants for the dagger, but I think some posts were trying to place a realistic value on it in order to assist the owner. The value is simply what it will bring. Like the owner, others have their opinions of where it should be priced. I believe it is worth considerably less than the owner does, but, if he can get anywhere near what he thinks it's worth, more power to him. You can always come down on the price, if desired. Grips, especially on earlier daggers can usually be identified to a given maker. Personally, I would restore the grip or replace it with one from the same maker (no easy task finding one, as a rule). This is considered "heresy" by some, but most collectors would do the same. A simple matter of choice. Different strokes, etc.

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Its a frankenstein Rohm now!

Yes Grumpy, this member is definately trying to assist the owner.

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Originally posted by Serge (aka Wagner):
Then regarding the grip repair, does that now mean that it's a half Honor and half standard grip?

-serge-

And another very helpful post.

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Originally posted by ivbaust:
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Here's another post that I'm sure was helpful to the owner.

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Originally posted by Serge (aka Wagner):
Sometimes the "Dream" comes by perhaps once. And all one has to do is just say OK and take it.
But if you let it slip away...your a fool and you got what's coming to ya!

And from the sounds of this thread I will just say that it looks to me that "FullRohmOwner" will be just that..a "FullRohmOwner" for a long time to come.

-serge-

And still another helpful post.

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Originally posted by Floridaguyz1:
So now we may see if FullRohmOwner gets the ridiculous price he expects for that piece of junk ....

Gordon

And more helpful posting from a GDC member.

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Originally posted by mongobongo:
Its a frankenstein Rohm now!

Hey mongobongo,
Got anymore genuine fake SS leather trenchcoats
for sale?

I would like to suggest that a moderator closes this thread and deletes it. Neither the replies of the GDC members nor yours, FullRohmOwner, add any value to the dagger collecting community.

FullRohmOwner, either sell your dagger and list it in the sales section (good luck for the 18k ) ... or keep it in your collection.

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Yes Grumpy, this member is definately trying to assist the owner.

Hey Dave Hohaus, what about deleting this reply because of insult?

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Oooohhhh, I would love now to comment this ... but I don´t.

You're right iv - these kind of quotes by those who commented add nothing to this thread!

I agree. Thread closed.

Dave