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#147669 12/21/2007 12:48 AM
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Just purchased these from one of our collector friends who has a nack for digging up vet finds.

Both came at a nice price.

1st is an Eickhorn 1734 Zieten. Brass hilted with finger loop. I have yet to see this configuration.

2nd is a Voos dovehead with dual national Wehrmacht eagles. One obviously on the langet, the other on the D-guard.

Both blades Excellent+, same with scabbards, hilts are pretty good, with some gilt remaining.

I've also posted it elsewhere. I wanted people to see this Eickhorn configuation.

Happy Holidays,
T

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#147670 12/21/2007 12:48 AM
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Hilts a bit closer.

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#147671 12/21/2007 12:48 AM
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Voos D-guard.

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#147672 12/21/2007 04:01 AM
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Hello sword-fish,

very nice swords! the one on the right is a Derflinger, similar to a Zeiten but without the lionshead. Model 1735 fyi Joe S

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Hola Joe,

Indeed you're right. I misspoke. 1735 it is.
It's an interesting configuration none the less.

I'm also buying a stone mint example Clemen & Jung with outstretched Wehrmacht eagle. A variety not covered in any of the literature. Probably just some original C&J catologue. Anyway, coming from the same seller. You guys all know him.

T


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#147674 12/22/2007 06:48 AM
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Anyone come accross a 1735 in this config? It's an interesting specimine.

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#147675 12/22/2007 06:52 AM
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Interesting brass example with aluminum grip wire.

Photo court. millermilitaria.com
http://www.millermilitaria.com/collectables/militaria/EW085_front.jpg

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#147676 12/22/2007 06:56 AM
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Another on Wittmans site. Brass hilted with aluminum wire.

Photo court of wittmanmilitaria
http://www.wwiidaggers.com/22650.htm

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#147677 12/22/2007 06:58 AM
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Another brass example, this time with brass wire. Crossguard underside stamped with legal protection marking.

Again, photo court of wittmanmilitaria
http://www.wwiidaggers.com/23792.htm

If anyone has an example of or have come accross an early one with the finger loop, please PM me.

Thanks,
T

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#147678 12/24/2007 07:42 PM
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Something else I noticed and wanted to point out about this Voos is that it has the noticeably ugly eagle, similiar to the piece we discussed a number of months ago where there was concern that it was a repro.

There is no parity between the workmanship froom Voos piece to Voos piece. This Voos, although a neat specimine, is not the quality of other Voos sabers I have. It has the big eyed eagle as well as the dimple in the center of the national symbol. It's interesting that there is such fluctuations from piece to piece. And although I feel the workmanship from Voos is better than that of Eickhorn, at least one can count of the Eickhorns to have uniformity accross the board. The Eickhorns are a known quantity.

Just an interesting observation that speaks to the individuality of each saber from the Voos company. I can now see how Voos company could have made a mistake, like casting the swas backward on the langet of the piece we discussed. Looking back on that thread, I feel that partucular piece is genuine.


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